I'm not finished writing it up yet, but this is my way of letting you know the roster was released and there were a huge amount of changes. I've been slacking lately on the updates as I have been very busy lately, but hopefully this should suffice for most.
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The lastest Real 2K Insider roster has been uploaded to 2K Share! Download it now, and please feel free to leave your thoughts and feedback!
FILE NAME: Real 2K Insider [St. Patrick's Day Special]
GAMERTAG: Real 2K Insider
PLATFORM: Xbox 360
HIGHLIGHTS
85.6% of all active players in the NBA (359/419) have been edited!
All edited players updated monthly!
No missing players!
Accurate player positions, player roles, and rotations for all teams!
Accurate contracts for all edited players!
Updated shooting tendencies and accessories!
Updated coach profiles for all teams!
Revised speed and quickness ratings for bigmen!
Revised shoot off dribble and shoot in traffic for all players!
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PLAYER MOVEMENT
to be continued...
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INJURY REPORT
to be continued...
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ROTATION UPDATES
Toney Douglas has emerged as the NY Knicks' starting point guard. I am not a huge Douglas fan, but he certainly deserves it over Chris Duhon (who has completely fallen out of the rotation since the trade deadline). I would honestly like to know why Nate Robinson couldn't even get into games under Mike D'Antoni, but the moment the Knicks trade Nate, D'Antoni immediately benched Duhon in favor of a career 3rd stringer who never ran a minute of the system (Sergio Rodriguez) and a rookie whose offensive flaws (namely, running a team) are exactly the same. At least we know Mike doesn't let his personal feelings dictate his coaching strat... OH WAIT.
to be continued...
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BIGGEST MOVERS
79/PG - Darren Collison (+3):
73/SG - John Salmons (+3):
73/SG - Shannon Brown (+4):
72/PF - Andray Blatche (+5):
72/PG - Toney Douglas (+3):
69/SG - Marcus Thornton (+3):
69/PG - Sergio Rodriguez (+6):
68/PF - J.J. Hickson (+4):
65/SF - Bill Walker (+5):
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THE RATINGS
359/419 (.856) NBA players updated
(+/-) = Difference from 2K Sports roster
LW = Overall change from last week
WAITING FOR THE CALL
PG: Ronnie Price (65), Marcus Banks (64), Marcus Williams (61)
SG: Gerald Henderson (67), Corey Brewer (66), Nick Young (66)
SF: Ryan Gomes (66), Dominic McGuire (64), Trenton Hassell (62)
PF: Udonis Haslem (70), Tyler Hansbrough (68), Darrell Arthur (65)
C: Jeff Foster (67), Dan Gadzuric (61), Rasho Nesterovic (61)
NBA TOP 10
95 - LeBron James (SF/PF)
94 - Kobe Bryant (SG/SF) (LW: +1)
94 - Chris Paul (PG) (INJURED)
93 - Dwyane Wade (SG/PG) (LW: -1)
91 - Tim Duncan (C) (+1)
90 - Dwight Howard (C) (LW: +2)
89 - Deron Williams (PG) (LW: +1)
87 - Chris Bosh (PF/C)
87 - Carmelo Anthony (SF)
87 - Kevin Durant (SF)
87 - Brandon Roy (SG/SF)
2K Sports TOP 10
97 - LeBron James (SF/PF)
96 - Kobe Bryant (SG/SF)
96 - Dwyane Wade (SG/PG)
95 - Chris Paul (PG)
92 - Deron Williams (PG)
91 - Carmelo Anthony (SF)
90 - Tim Duncan (PF/C)
89 - Dwight Howard (C)
88 - Kevin Durant (SF/PF)
88 - Brandon Roy (SG/SF)
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POINT GUARDS (76/83)
94 – Chris Paul (-1) (INJURED)
89 – Deron Williams (-3) (LW: +1)
85 – Rajon Rondo (-2)
83 – Steve Nash (+1)
82 – Baron Davis (0)
81 – Gilbert Arenas (-4) (SUSPENDED, OUT FOR SEASON)
81 - Russell Westbrook (-3) (LW: +1)
80 – Chauncey Billups (-4)
80 – Derrick Rose (-4)
79 – Tony Parker (-2) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON) (LW: -2)
79 – Tyreke Evans (0)
79 – Darren Collison (0) (LW: +3)
78 – Devin Harris (0) (LW: -1)
78 – Aaron Brooks (-1)
77 – Nate Robinson (-1) (LW: +1)
76 – Jason Kidd (-4)
76 – Raymond Felton (+2)
76 – Brandon Jennings (-1)
76 – Jonny Flynn (+1)
75 – Jameer Nelson (-2)
75 – Mo Williams (-2) (LW: -2)
75 – Rodney Stuckey (+1)
75 – Ty Lawson (-1) (INJURED)
75 – Kyle Lowry (+1)
74 – Stephen Curry (-2)
74 – Andre Miller (-4)
74 – Louis Williams (0)
73 – Luke Ridnour (0)
73 – T.J. Ford (0)
73 – Will Bynum (+1)
72 – Jarrett Jack (+2) (LW: +1)
72 – Toney Douglas (+5) (LW: +3)
72 – Mario Chalmers (0)
71 – Michael Conley (-2)
71 – Jose Calderon (-1)
71 – Keyon Dooling (0) (LW: +1)
71 – Rafer Alston (-3) (SUSPENDED, OUT FOR SEASON)
70 – Mike Bibby (-5)
70 – Jason Williams (+1) (LW: +2)
70 – Earl Boykins (+3)
69 – Earl Watson (+4)
69 – Sergio Rodriguez (+8) (LW: +6)
69 – Chris Duhon (0)
69 – Goran Dragic (+1)
69 – Beno Udrih (+6)
69 – Jose Barea (-2) (LW: +1)
69 – Sebastian Telfair (+2) (INJURED) (LW: NEW)
68 – Randy Foye (-2)
68 – George Hill (-3)
68 – Carlos Arroyo (+3)
68 – Jrue Holiday (0) (LW: -2)
68 – Ramon Sessions (-2)
68 – Eric Maynor (0)
68 – Rodrigue Beaubois (+1) (LW: +1)
67 – C.J. Watson (-1)
67 – Jordan Farmar (+1)
67 – Jamaal Tinsley (0)
67 – D.J. Augustin (-2)
66 – Derek Fisher (-5)
66 – Jeff Teague (0)
66 – Sundiata Gaines (0) (LW: +5)
65 – Steve Blake (-4) (LW: +1)
64 – Jannero Pargo (+1) (LW: NEW)
64 – Anthony Johnson (+3)
64 – Mustafa Shakur (CAP) (10-Day Contract) (LW: NEW)
63 – A.J. Price (+8)
62 – Patrick Mills (-6)
61 – Daniel Gibson (0) (LW: -1)
61 – Bobby Brown (+3)
61 – Lester Hudson (-1) (D-LEAGUE)
61 – Acie Law (+1) (LW: +1)
61 – Cedric Jackson (CAP) (10-Day Contract)
60 – Anthony Carter (+2)
60 – Shaun Livingston (+1) (10-Day Contract) (LW: NEW)
60 – Kenny Hasbrouck (CAP) (10-Day Contract) (LW: NEW)
59 – Royal Ivey (+4)
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SHOOTING GUARDS 63/74
94 - Kobe Bryant (-2) (LW: +1)
93 – Dwyane Wade (-3) (LW: -1)
87 – Brandon Roy (-1)
85 – Joe Johnson (-4)
81 – Manu Ginobili (-5)
80 – Monta Ellis (-5)
79 – Stephen Jackson (-5)
77 – Kevin Martin (-1) (LW: -1)
77 – Vince Carter (-2) (LW: -1)
76 – Caron Butler (-1) (LW: -1)
76 – Jason Terry (-2)
76 – James Harden (+2) (INJURED)
75 – O.J. Mayo (-4)
75 – Tracy McGrady (-1) (LW: -1)
75 – Ray Allen (-3) (LW: +1)
75 – Ben Gordon (-3)
75 – Delonte West (+1)
74 – Allen Iverson (-7) (PERSONAL, OUT FOR SEASON) (LW: -2)
74 – Kirk Hinrich (-1)
74 – Leandro Barbosa (0)
73 – Richard Hamilton (-2)
73 – Jason Richardson (+1)
73 – John Salmons (-1) (LW: +3)
73 – Jamal Crawford (-2)
73 – Shannon Brown (0) (LW: +4)
72 – Eric Gordon (-2) (LW: -2)
72 – J.R. Smith (+2) (LW: -1)
72 – Larry Hughes (0)
71 – Jerryd Bayless (+3)
70 – Flip Murray (+4)
70 – Rudy Fernandez (+2)
70 – Francisco Garcia (+2) (LW: NEW)
70 – Raja Bell (-1) (INJURED)
69 – Marcus Thornton (0) (LW: +4)
69 – Ronnie Brewer (-1) (INJURED)
68 – Mike Miller (-2)
68 – Courtney Lee (0) (LW: -1)
68 – Michael Redd (-7) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
68 – Arron Afflalo (+3)
68 - Roger Mason (-2) (LW: NEW)
68 – Willie Green (0)
67 – Anthony Parker (-2) (LW: +1)
67 – Thabo Sefolosha (0) (LW: +1)
67 – Charlie Bell (+1)
67 – Tony Allen (+1)
67 – Terrence Williams (-5)
66 – Eddie House (+4) (LW: +4)
66 – Sasha Vujacic (-1)
65 – J.J. Redick (+10)
65 – Devin Brown (+5)
64 – Marco Belinelli (-1)
64 – Jerry Stackhouse (-3)
64 – Garrett Temple (CAP) (10-Day Contract)
63 – Keith Bogans (-3)
63 – Wesley Matthews (+1)
62 – DeShawn Stevenson (-6) (LW: NEW)
62 – Mardy Collins (+6)
62 – Danny Green (-2) (LW: NEW)
60 – Daequan Cook (0) (LW: NEW)
60 – Jodie Meeks (+1) (LW: NEW)
60 – Mario West (+2)
59 – Morris Peterson (+4)
25 – Cuttino Mobley (CAP) (RETIRED)
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SMALL FORWARDS (65/83)
Rating – Player 73/85
95 – LeBron James (-2)
87 – Kevin Durant (-1)
87 – Carmelo Anthony (-4)
82 – Gerald Wallace (-1)
81 – Paul Pierce (-1) (LW: -1)
81 – Danny Granger (-2) (LW: +1)
80 – Andre Iguodala (-5) (LW: -1)
78 – Ron Artest (-2)
77 – Rudy Gay (-3)
77 – Andrei Kirilenko (+2)
75 – Luol Deng (-2)
75 – Tayshaun Prince (-1)
75 – Trevor Ariza (-3) (LW: -1)
74 – Shawn Marion (-6)
74 – Grant Hill (-2) (LW: +1)
73 – Shane Battier (-2)
73 – Josh Howard (+2) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
73 – Dahntay Jones (+1) (LW: -1)
72 – Hedo Turkoglu (-2)
72 – Richard Jefferson (-1)
72 – Jared Dudley (0)
72 - Kelenna Azubuike (+1) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
71 – Carlos Delfino (+8)
71 – Mickael Pietrus (-1)
71 – Travis Outlaw (+2) (LW: +2)
70 – Quentin Richardson (+1)
69 – Danilo Gallinari (+1)
69 – Omri Casspi (+4) (LW: +1)
69 – Matt Barnes (+3)
68 – Martell Webster (+2)
68 – Marvin Williams (+2)
68 – Andres Nocioni (-1) (LW: -2)
68 – Al Thornton (0)
68 – Marquis Daniels (+4)
68 – Jamario Moon (+2) (LW: NEW)
68 – Dorell Wright (+4) (LW: NEW)
68 – Chris Douglas-Roberts (-4) (LW: -1)
67 – Jarvis Hayes (-1)
67 – Nicolas Batum (+3) (LW: +2)
67 – Mike Dunleavy (+5)
67 – James Posey (-4)
67 – Maurice Evans (0) (LW: +1)
67 – Luke Walton (+1) (INJURED)
67 – Joey Graham (-2)
66 – Jonas Jerebko (+2)
66 – C.J. Miles (+8)
66 – Anthony Morrow (+1)
66 – Chase Budinger (-2) (LW: +1)
65 – Rasual Butler (+4)
65 – Sonny Weems (+9)
65 – Antoine Wright (+3)
65 – Bill Walker (+4) (LW: +5)
65 – Sam Young (-1)
65 – James Johnson (+4) (LW: NEW)
64 – Donte Greene (+2) (LW: +1)
64 – Kyle Korver (+3)
64 – Joe Alexander (+4) (LW: -1)
64 – Alonzo Gee (CAP) (10-Day Contract)
64 – Reggie Williams (CAP) (10-Day Contract)
63 – Jawad Williams (+4) (LW: NEW)
63 - Rodney Carney (+3) (LW: NEW)
63 – Derrick Brown (-5)
62 - Peja Stojakovic (+2) (INJURED)
62 – Julian Wright (-1) (LW: -2)
62 – Michael Finley (-4)
62 – Jonathan Bender (+2)
62 – Othyus Jeffers (CAP) (10-Day Contract)
61 – Earl Clark (-3) (D-LEAGUE)
61 – Marcus Landry (+7) (D-LEAGUE)
60 – Jason Kapono (+2)
60 – J.R. Giddens (+3)
59 – Devean George (-2)
56 – Adam Morrison (+2)
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POWER FORWARDS 76/87
87 – Chris Bosh (0)
86 – Pau Gasol (-1)
83 – Dirk Nowitzki (-1)
83 – Josh Smith (-1)
83 – Carlos Boozer (-3)
82 – Amare Stoudemire (-3) (LW: +1)
80 – Kevin Garnett (0) (LW: -4)
80 – Al Jefferson (-1)
78 – Zach Randolph (-2)
77 – Luis Scola (0)
77 – Kevin Love (+3)
77 – Blake Griffin (0) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
76 – LaMarcus Aldridge (-1) (LW: -2)
76 – Carl Landry (0) (LW: -1)
76 – Corey Maggette (-2)
76 – David West (+1)
76 – Jeff Green (+1)
76 – Tyrus Thomas (+4) (LW: +1)
75 – Kenyon Martin (0) (INJURED)
75 – Lamar Odom (-3)
74 – Elton Brand (0) (LW: -1)
74 – Michael Beasley (-1)
74 – Wilson Chandler (+1) (INJURED)
74 – Al Harrington (0)
74 – Paul Millsap (0)
73 – Antawn Jamison (-5) (LW: -1)
73 – Rashard Lewis (+1)
72 – Andray Blatche (0) (LW: +5)
72 – Troy Murphy (0)
72 – Anderson Varejao (+3)
72 – Leon Powe (+6) (LW: NEW)
71 – Ersan Ilyasova (+8)
70 – Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (0) (LW: -1)
70 – Boris Diaw (0)
70 – Drew Gooden (+3) (LW: +1)
70 – Craig Smith (+8)
70 – Thaddeus Young (-1)
70 – Charlie Villanueva (-2) (LW: NEW)
70 - Jason Maxiell (+2) (LW: NEW)
70 – Brandon Bass (+2)
70 - Louis Amundson (+5)
69 – Taj Gibson (-1) (LW: +2)
69 – Hakim Warrick (+4) (LW: -1)
69 – Amir Johnson (+5) (LW: NEW)
68 – J.J. Hickson (+2) (LW: +4)
68 – Kris Humphries (+3)
68 – Shelden Williams (+7)
67 – Antonio McDyess (-2)
67 – Yi Jianlian (0)
67 – Jared Jeffries (+3) (LW: +1)
67 – Glen Davis (+2) (LW: +1)
67 – Renaldo Balkman (+1) (INJURED)
67 – Brandan Wright (+2) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
66 – Ryan Anderson (+4) (LW: +1)
66 – Reggie Evans (+1) (LW: NEW)
66 – Jordan Hill (+2) (LW: -2)
66 – Chris Wilcox (+3) (INJURED) (LW: NEW)
65 – Darius Songaila (+3)
65 – Serge Ibaka (+4)
65 – Dante Cunningham (+3)
64 – James Singleton (+4)
64 – Jon Brockman (+10) (LW: NEW)
64 – Joe Smith (+1)
63 - Josh Powell (-2)
63 – Eduardo Najera (0) (LW: +1)
62 – Anthony Tolliver (+2)
62 – Matt Bonner (+4)
62 – Tim Thomas (+2) (PERSONAL, OUT FOR SEASON)
61 – Josh Boone (+3)
61 – Bobby Simmons (-1)
61 – Jason Smith (+4) (LW: NEW)
59 – Vladimir Radmanovic (+5) (INJURED)
59 – Malik Allen (+1)
59 – Taylor Griffin (-3)
53 – Brian Scalabrine (+9)
48 – Steve Novak (+3)
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CENTERS 71/90
91 – Tim Duncan (+2)
90 – Dwight Howard (+1) (LW: +2)
85 – Yao Ming (+2) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
81 – Greg Oden (+6) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
80 – David Lee (-1)
80 - Andrew Bogut (-1)
79 – Al Horford (0)
79 – Shaquille O’Neal (+3) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
79 – Emeka Okafor (-1)
78 – Kendrick Perkins (+5)
78 – Nene (+3)
78 – Marcus Camby (+1) (LW: +3)
77 – Chris Kaman (-1)
77 – Andrew Bynum (0)
77 – Brook Lopez (-4) (LW: -2)
77 – Joakim Noah (+4) (INJURED)
77 – Jermaine O’Neal (+1)
76 – Marc Gasol (-1)
74 – Roy Hibbert (+2)
74 – DeJuan Blair (+5)
73 – Samuel Dalembert (+3)
73 – Rasheed Wallace (-1)
72 – Mehmet Okur (+1)
72 – Brendan Haywood (0)
72 – Ben Wallace (-3) (LW: +1)
72 – Andris Biedrins (+1) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
72 – Anthony Randolph (+1) (INJURED)
72 – Marreese Speights (0) (LW: -1)
72 – Marcin Gortat (+4)
71 – Andrea Bargnani (-2)
71 – Jason Thompson (-1) (LW: -2)
71 – Erick Dampier (+10)
71 – Nazr Mohammed (+6) (INJURED)
71 – Zydrunas Ilgauskas (0)
71 – Chris Andersen (+3)
69 – Robin Lopez (+5) (LW: +2)
69 – Joel Przybilla (+2) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
68 – Chuck Hayes (-1)
68 - Ronny Turiaf (+1)
68 – Tyson Chandler (+2) (LW: +1)
67 – Spencer Hawes (+1)
67 – Zaza Pachulia (+2)
67 – Kurt Thomas (-2)
66 – Nenad Krstic (+6)
65 – Joey Dorsey (0) (LW: NEW)
64 – Brad Miller (-2)
64 – Channing Frye (0) (LW: +1)
64 – Hasheem Thabeet (+7)
64 – Kwame Brown (0)
63 – Juwan Howard (+5)
63 – Darko Milicic (+4)
63 – Etan Thomas (+1)
63 – Aaron Gray (0)
62 – Theo Ratliff (+2) (LW: NEW)
62 – Jeff Pendergraph (-1)
61 – JaVale McGee (+1) (LW: NEW)
61 – DeAndre Jordan (+5) (LW: +1)
61 – Johan Petro (+4)
60 – Solomon Jones (+6)
60 – Hilton Armstrong (+2) (LW: NEW)
60 – DJ Mbenga (+8)
60 – Eddy Curry (-5) (INJURED)
59 – Brian Skinner (+1) (LW: NEW)
59 – Chris Hunter (-1)
58 – Chris Richard (CAP) (LW: +1)
58 – Francisco Elson (-4) (INJURED) (LW: NEW)
58 – Adonal Foyle (+1) (INJURED)
56 – Randolph Morris (+6)
52 – Jason Collins (0)
51 – Jarron Collins (+3)
25 – Jerome James (-18) (RETIRED) (LW: NEW)
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19 comments:
Too scared to post on Gamefaqs?
^Idiot.
I think DeMar DeRozan's played enough for an adjustment, no?
Good to see Amir Johnson and Deron Williams get their earned bumps
Well done as usual
I think a couple of Spurs need changes, namely Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.
Timmy's numbers have dropped across the board since the all-star break and his offensive efficiency has decreased also.
Ginobili's mid-range game and ability to finish off of drives have seen the biggest improvement.
Hopefully, you can change their ratings to reflect their recent play.
...where/why am I supposed to post on gamefaqs?
Demar's abilities don't play well with SG overall rating. He's not a good scorer. His defense isn't great either, he's still a young athlete and honestly wouldn't start for any team other than Toronto.
I'll check Duncan, but Ginobili is shooting like 24% from mid-range, and this isn't a recent occurance either - he has always been that bad from mid-range. He is strictly a driver/3pt shooter.
I wasn't excepting a rise in DD's rating, just some tweats. He's had some good rebounding games (as has Weems) and picks up a good amount of offensive boards when he plays well. He's terribly inconsistant (which is understandable, at any given time on the floor he's at best the third option and is a rookie,, obviously) but when he plays well he usually has afew more rebounds than I find he gets in the game. I know he's only averaging 3 a game (1 offensive) but he'll go streches off games where it's 2-3-0-4-5-6-2-7-3-6 rebounds. Better games, more minutes for him increases his rebounding.
And yeah, no chance he starts on any other team. Shouldn't be starting the Raptors either, but Triano's hell bend on "building his confidence, helping him adapt to the NBA" even though it's effecting team play and Triano will not be around to see this guy play in his 3rd year. Oh well.
Other players, maybe since I usually play with the Raptors, but Jennings still seems to make a few too many shots.
I like your changes but I have a question. Do you know what shot in traffic affects for a player? Tyreke only has 67 and I figured it was about a player's ability to make shots/layups with contact. Tyreke is great at it but if his rating is that low maybe I misunderstood the rating.
I noticed Al Jefferson has a very high SIT which would make sense. I'm sure he can take a hit with how big he is but I'm still not sure if the rating means what I thought it to be.
damn does kobe really only deserve 72 sit???
Rashidi,
I still think Ginobili needs a boost in your next update. He's really playing better than your (81) rating indicates. He's gotten his legs back and can finish strong at the rim, again.
Plus, his overall game has been outstanding as of late with a spike in rebounds, assists and steals. He's not the same player of 5 years ago, but he definitely is better than the beginning of the season.
Rashidi ur da man. Im not saying to suck up to you. Im saying that bcuz ur the only one I kno of who notices how well Marcus Thorton is playing. Thank you 4 that. By the way may i plz get some Lebron's ratings. Sorry im a nba 2k10 pc gamer. thx in advance
There are many guards with high SIT. These players already have high SOD. It's really the front court players who are shooting in traffic a great deal more than guards just by the nature of where they're shooting (the teeth of the defense).
A guy like Kobe, I mean, I really wouldn't count a post fadeaway or stepback as "In Traffic". He is a finesse player. He doesn't drive into the teeth of the defense looking to draw contact anywhere near as much as someone like LeBron or Wade.
SIT Rashidi
LeBron: 79
Durant: 78
Melo: 77
Wade: 76
Kobe: 72
Roy: 68
Deron: 63
Paul: 60
Nash: 50
SIT 2K Sports
LeBron: 84
Kobe: 84
Durant: 83
Melo: 82
Wade: 81
Paul: 76
Nash: 75
Deron: 73
Roy: 73
I did seem to lower the ratings for perimeter players (pretty much across the board) but the players are also accurately rated, which is more than you can say for 2K Sports.
Kobe = LeBron?
Nash +2 > Deron & Roy?
Roy = Deron?
In fact I think I'm going to make a blog post regarding this.
I already have Ginobili rated as the #5 SG in the game (behind bonafide all-stars Kobe, Wade, Roy, and Johnson). Believe me, he is fine. I am one of the few people out there who knows what a great player Manu is year in and out. He is a great all-around player, but he isn't without flaws. His mid-range game is very poor and this is what really holds him back from being on say, Joe Johnson's level.
Prior to Manu's explosion (which is happening because Tony Parker is out of the way), he was not having a good year and many people were calling for a decrease. I withheld because he still showed the same perephirals - the only thing that had declined was his inside scoring ability (and this is what has picked up of late).
Can someone, anyone post the transfer kit version (.z36) of this roster file? Not everyone has xbox live to enjoy these fine rosters =(. Thanks!
^ I AGREE
Agreed with HAAD. Please help those of us with the PC/other version of this game by making your rosters available.
Agree with haad. We need offline rosters!
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