Tuesday, February 12, 2013

NBA 2K13 Roster Analysis 2/12/13

With 2K Sports releasing their latest roster "update" for NBA 2K13, their rosters are now HILARIOUSLY out of date.  I want to write good things about these roster updates.  I really do.  2K Sports hasn't released an update worth talking about in a month, and has done so maybe 5 times all season despite (normally) updating 1-2 times per week.  When 2K takes TEN DAYS to release a roster update, we expect SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, not piss-poor quality that 3rd graders on 2K Share could trump with one hand tied behind their back.

I know for a fact that if I performed my job this poorly, I would lose it within a week, not keep it for 5 years.  There are others out there who feel the same way, and those people will probably jump to EA Sports once they finally have a working title again.  If 2K Sports can't keep up with NBA.com's publicly accessible transaction list, can we really expect them to keep up with next-gen techology?  Real talk.

Forget about the lack of player edits (though two in ten days is plenty bad), 2K is no longer even keeping up with basic transactions.  There are FIVE players on wrong teams and they all have been there for weeks.  Donald Sloan is still on the Hornets roster despite being outside of something Real 2K Insider likes to call "The Western Hemisphere."

We haven't had a missing player added in MONTHS despite the fact that one of them plays over 20 minutes per game and had a player model in the game as recently as 2K11.  We are still missing a coach who was hired nearly one month ago.

We have clear department biases as Brooklyn's Deron Willams misses ONE GAME, is slated to miss one additional game (sitting out until after the All-Star break), and has been given a major injury that cannot be played through.  In the previous update we had Chris Paul still capable of being used through his injury, while in this update the Spurs Tim Duncan (4 straight missed games) and Manu Ginobili (5 sraight missed games) have no injuries, despite the fact that they are likewise probable to be held out until after the All-Star break.

Player Edits: 3
Missing Players: 13
Players on Wrong Teams: 5
Incorrect Head Coaches: 1
Incorrect Injuries: 1
Missing Injuries: 3
Incorrect Starting Lineups: 6



Player attribute edits per roster
2/12: 3
2/2: 2
1/30: 7
1/24: 0
1/21: 0
1/17: 18
1/12: 2
1/5: 16
1/3: 1
12/25: 0
12/21: 0
12/18: 9
12/13: 1
12/8: 15
12/5: 14
11/17:  16


Jimmy Butler
Jimmy Butler
75 Overall (+8)
82 Inside (+8)
71 Close (-6)
72 Med (+4)
65 3pt (+20)
82 FT (+5)
80 Layup (+10)
62 Traffic (+3)
66 SOD (+2)
46 Block (+6)
68 Steal (+2)
76 OBDef (+6)
62 OffReb (+7)
55 DefReb (+3)
63 PostDef (+5)
61 OffAwr (+9)
76 DefAwr (+12)
60 Consistency (+15)
89 Stamina (+2)
80 Speed (+3)
75 Quickness (+2)
88 Hustle (+16)
80 Potential (+10)

PER: 15.2
Inside: 80-111 (72.1%)
Close: 11-45 (24.4%)
Med: 28-69 (40.6%)
3pt: 11-42 (26.2%)
FT: 97-112 (86.6%)
BLK%: 0.8
STL%: 1.6
ORB%: 7.7
DRB%: 10.5

PER: 12.5
Inside: 14-28 (50.0%)
Close: 10-23 (43.4%)
Med: 6-17 (35.3%)
3pt: 2-11 (18.2%)
FT: 43-56 (76.8%)
BLK%: 1.0
STL%: 1.6
ORB%: 7.3
DRB%: 10.1

Butler played exceptionally well filling in for Luol Deng a few weeks back, and can now be considered the Bulls 6th man.  He has averaged 14.5 ppg, 8.8 rpg, and 2.5 apg across 6 starts, averaging a ridiculous 45.3 mpg.


LeBron James
LeBron James
100 Overall (+1)
99 OffAwr (+2)
87 DefAwr (+7)

The max displayable Overall rating is 99, but with these rating changes LeBron's rating is essentially 100.  For those keeping score at home, most of the Michael Jordan's on the retro teams are also rated higher than 99.


Andre Drummond
Andre Drummond
69 Overall (+3)
30 3pt (+5)
86 Block (+2)
92 OffReb (+4)
78 DefReb (+6)
76 DefAwr (+6)
45 Consistency (+5)
80 Potential (+5)

PER: 22.5 (14th in NBA)
Inside: 150-223 (67.3%)
Close: 10-43 (23.2%)
Med: 0-4 (0.0%)
3pt: 1-2 (50.0%)
6.7 BLK% (4th in NBA)
16.2 ORB% (leads NBA)
26.6 DRB% (8th in NBA)

Drummond's block and rebound ratings should be even higher than what they were just raised to.  He has been nothing short of incredible in his playing time, despite being a teenager.  Perhaps nothing illustrates that better than the following list.

Pistons Win Shares
4.1 Greg Monroe (1749 minutes)
3.9 Andre Drummond (986 minutes)
2.4 Kyle Singler (1496 minutes)
1.8 Rodney Stuckey (1332 minutes)
1.7 Jason Maxiell (1338 minutes)
1.4 Brandon Knight (1672 minutes)



Maalik Wayns (63/PG) - Free Agents (from 76ers)



Jeremy Pargo (/PG) - Free Agents (Signed 10-day contract with 76ers on 2/7)
Donald Sloan (63/PG) - Hornets (10-day contract expired on 1/17)
Damion James (70/SF) - Nets (10-day contract expired on 1/23)
Dominic McGuire (66/SF) - Pacers (10-day contract expired on 1/27)
Louis Amundson (65/PF) - Timberwolves (Waived on 2/8)


Kevin Jones (PF) - Cavaliers (17 games, 9.5 mpg)
Chris Johnson (SG/SF) - Grizzlies (8 games, 12.8 mpg)
Jarvis Varnado (PF) - Heat (8 games, 4.1 mpg)
Kevin Murphy (SG) - Jazz (10 games, 3.4 mpg)
Mike James (PG) - Mavericks (14 games, 9.1 mpg, played 539 games prior to this season)
Julyan Stone (PG/SG) - Nuggets (2 games, 5.5 mpg, played 22 games prior to this season)
Ben Hansbrough (PG/SG) - Pacers (18 games, 7.8 mpg)
Patrick Beverley (PG) - Rockets (12 games, 12.1 mpg)
Aron Baynes (C) - Spurs (6 games, 5.8 mpg)
Diante Garrett (SG) - Suns (7 games, 4.7 mpg)
Mickael Gelabale (SF) Timberwolves (13 games, 21.8 mpg, played 109 games prior to this season)
Chris Johnson (C/PF) - Timberwolves (9 games, 13.3 mpg, played 41 games prior to this season)
Kent Bazemore (SG/SF) - Warriors (36 games, 4.9 mpg)



Thaddeus Young (74/PF) 76ers
Jared Sullinger (71/PF) Celtics
Gordon Hayward (68/SG) Jazz
Pau Gasol (81/PF) Lakers
Deron Williams (86/PG) Nets
Andre Drummond (69/C) Pistons

Byron Mullens (69/PF) Bobcats
Daniel Gibson (65/SG) Cavaliers
Chris Paul (94/PG) Clippers
Chauncey Billups (81/PG) Clippers
Quincy Pondexter (61/SF) Grizzlies
Sam Young (68/SF) Pacers
Andrea Bargnani (73/PF) Raptors
Jonas Valanciunas (68/C) Raptors

Leandro Barbosa (71/PG) Celtics
Tim Duncan (87/C) Spurs
Manu Ginobili (86/SG) Spurs

Deron Williams (86/PG) Nets (Will rest until after all-star break; will literally miss ONE GAME)

OUT FOR SEASON (10 total)
Jason Richardson (73/SG) 76ers
Rajon Rondo (89/PG) Celtics
Jared Sullinger (71/PF) Celtics
Anderson Varejao (76/C) Cavaliers
Louis Williams (78/SG) Hawks
Jordan Hill (70/C) Lakers
Glen Davis (73/PF) Magic
Channing Frye (67/PF Suns
Elliot Williams (66/SG) Trail Blazers
Brandon Rush (71/SG) Warriors

INJURED LIST (33 total)
76ers: Andrew Bynum (87/C), Thaddeus Young (74/PF), Jason Richardson (74/SG)
Bobcats: N/A
Bucks: N/A
Bulls: Derrick Rose (92/PG)
Cavaliers: Anderson Varejao (76/C)
Celtics: Rajon Rondo (89/PG), Jared Sullinger (71/PF)
Clippers: Trey Thompkins (63/PF)
Grizzlies: N/A
Hawks: Louis Williams (78/SG)
Heat: N/A
Hornets: N/A
Jazz: Mo Williams (78/PG), Raja Bell (71/SG), Gordon Hayward (68/SG)
Kings: N/A
Knicks:  Marcus Camby (73/C), Rasheed Wallace (71/PF)
Lakers: Pau Gasol (81/PF), Jordan Hill (70/C)
Magic:  Glen Davis (73/PF), Al Harrington (71/PF)
Mavericks: Chris Kaman (76/C)
Nets: Deron Williams (86/PG), Tornike Shengelia (56/SF)
Nuggets: N/A
Pacers: Danny Granger (83/SF)
Pistons: Andre Drummond (69/C)
Raptors: Mickael Pietrus (72/SF), Linas Kleiza (64/SF)
Rockets: N/A
Spurs: N/A
Suns: Channing Frye (67/PF)
Thunder: N/A
Timberwolves: Kevin Love (89/PF), Brandon Roy (80/SG), Chase Budinger (71/SF), Malcolm Lee (SG/65)
Trail Blazers: Elliot Williams (66/SG)
Warriors: Brandon Rush (71/SG)
Wizards: Cartier Martin (67/SF)



Kemba Walker (PG), Gerald Henderson (SG), Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (SF), Jeff Adrien (PF), Bismack Biyombo (C)
Byron Mullens returned to the starting lineup on 2/8.

Kyrie Irving (PG), C.J. Miles (SG), Alonzo Gee (SF), Tristan Thompson (PF), Tyler Zeller (C)
Dion Waiters returned to the starting lineup on 2/1.

Jeff Teague (PG), Kyle Korver (SG), Josh Smith (SF), Al Horford (PF)Zaza Pachulia (C)
Devin Harris has been starting at SG.  Anthony Tolliver has recently been starting at PF which has pushed Smith to SF and Kyle Korver to the bench.  2K also has DeShawn Stevenson on the inactive list for no reason whatsoever - Stevenson even started twice this month.

Raymond Felton (PG), Iman Shumpert (SG), Carmelo Anthony (SF), Amare Stoudemire (PF), Tyson Chandler (C)
Amare Stoudemire has yet to start a single game since returning SIX WEEKS AGO on 1/1.  The Knicks have been running small ball with Jason Kidd (SG), Iman Shumpert (SF), and Carmelo Anthony (PF) ever since Raymond Felton's return from injury last month.

Jameer Nelson (PG), J.J. Redick (SG), Arron Afflalo (SF), Andrew Nicholson (PF), Nikola Vucevic (C)
Maurice Harkless has been starting at SF since 1/30.

Kyle Lowry (PG), DeMar DeRozan (SG), Rudy Gay (SF), Amir Johnson (PF), Aaron Gray (C)
Jonas Valanciunas returned to the starting lineup on 2/10.


Liked the in-depth breakdown of 2K Sports' roster update?  Check out Rashidi's roster, The Real NBA 2K13.


Kenrick Altidor said...

Your hitting the nail on the head man. I Just wish 2k would come out and say what is the problem. It's really bad now.

P.s. Love the 3rd grader line haha

F_Rod said...

You're on point. I wish 2K sports would pay attention to your blog and finally make a complete roster update. I made my own on the Xbox360 using the recent 2K roster update. Search Sumbaztard176 and check it out.

Shelb said...

When I saw what was changed in this update I was disgusted. This is getting unacceptable. I change more on my saved Rashidi roster weekly than 2K changes in their official rosters in terms of line-ups, roster changes, etc.

They also seem to only release rosters a day or two after something happens: Rudy Gay trade-roster the next day, injury to player x on a big market team-roster update the next day, etc etc.

It can't even be a laziness thing anymore. They have to just be fucking with us now. It's pathetic. I get that some of their ratings are off (although that'd bad enough), but the lineups being incorrect, missing players, missing coaches, not changing player's accessories for YEARS... all of this just makes me think they know there are things to change and they just choose not to and go play Call of Duty in the staff break room instead.