Wednesday, October 2, 2013

Updated Player Ratings for NBA 2K14's Stars

By comparing the top players of NBA 2K14 to their NBA 2K13 iterations, we can see what changes 2K Sports made during the off-season and judge whether these were acceptable changes or not.

LeBron James Kevin Durant
100 Overall (NC) 94 Overall (-1)
85 3pt Shot (+8) 91 Standing Layup (-2) - AKA Inside Shot
75 Free Throw (-2) 87 3pt Shot (+1)
63 Block (+6) 74 Block (+1)
76 Steal (-2) 40 OffReb (-20)
54 OffReb (-1) 82 DefReb (+4)
79 DefReb (+11) 98 Potential (+1)

Kobe Bryant Chris Paul
93 Overall (-2) 93 Overall (-1)
87 Medium Shot (-1) 89 Close Shot (-3)
78 3pt Shot (-4) 78 3pt Shot (-5)
83 Free Throw (-1) 88 Free Throw (+2)
92 Ball Security (-3) 30 Dunk (-27)
39 Block (+2) 30 Block (+2)
69 Steal (+3) 93 Steal (-1)
78 On-Ball Defense (-2) 46 OffReb (+10)
45 OffReb (+5) 42 DefReb (-14)
57 DefReb (+7)
85 Speed (-1)
89 Quickness (-1)
76 Vertical (-4)
84 Durability (-15)
Derrick Rose Carmelo Anthony
92 Overall (NC) 91 Overall (-2)
76 3pt Shot (-1) 89 Standing Layup (-2) - AKA Inside Shot
48 Block (+3)
59 Steal (-1)
68 OffReb (-12)
62 DefReb (-3)
Russell Westbrook Dwyane Wade
91 Overall (+1) 91 Overall (NC)
80 Free Throw (-2) 72 Free Throw (-3)
40 Block (+9) 94 Layup (-5)
80 Steal (+2) 63 Block (+1)
57 OffReb (+1) 82 Steal (+2)
49 DefReb (+4) 55 OffReb (+1)
48 DefReb (+5)
90 Vertical (-3)
97 Potential (-2)
Dwight Howard Rajon Rondo
91 Overall (+1) 90 Overall (+1)
98 Standing Layup (+6) - AKA Inside Shot 64 Free Throw (+4)
92 Block (+4) 35 Block (+6)
66 Steal (+2) 79 Steal (+1)
83 OffReb (-12) 51 OffReb (+2)
95 DefReb (+6) 55 DefReb (+2)
James Harden Stephen Curry
88 Overall (NC) 88 Overall (NC)
87 Standing Layup (-1) - AKA Inside Shot 71 Standing Layup (-10) - AKA Inside Shot
83 3pt Shot (+2) 91 3pt Shot (-3)
85 Free Throw (-1) 29 Block (+1)
47 Block (-5) 74 Steal (-6)
78 Steal (-2) 44 OffReb (+6)
89 Hands (+4) 40 DefReb (-4)
44 OffReb (-5)
48 DefReb (+8)
75 DefAwr (+1)
85 Consistency (+5)
98 Stamina (+2)
90 Durabiliy (+4)
93 Potential (+6)
Deron Williams Jrue Holiday
88 Overall (NC) 88 Overall
84 Standing Layup (+1) - AKA Inside Shot 79 Standing Layup (-12) - AKA Inside Shot
85 Free Throw (+1) 75 Free Throw (-3)
44 Block (+11) 44 Block (+6)
63 Steal (+1) 74 Steal (+2)
33 OffReb (+7) 51 OffReb (+3)
35 DefReb (-9) 39 DefReb (-8)
Paul George Tim Duncan
87 Overall (+4) 87 Overall (NC)
88 Standing Layup (+7) - AKA Inside Shot 81 Free Throw (+12)
82 3pt Shot (-2) 99 Block (+13)
90 Layup (+12) 61 Steal (+1)
77 Shoot In Traffic (+3) 71 OffReb (-13)
78 Shoot Off Dribble (+6) 98 DefReb (+8)
73 Ball Security (+5)
54 Block (-1)
85 Hands (+6)
84 On-Ball Defense (+2)
51 OffReb (-15)
77 DefReb (+4)
61 PostDef (+6)
90 OffAwr (+6)
84 DefAwr (+2)
85 Consistency (+10)
95 Stamina (+3)
84 Speed (+5)
88 Quickness (+6)
81 Hustle (+9)
95 Durability (+12)
95 Potential (+7)

Every player had their Steal, Block, and Rebound ratings adjusted.
Kobe (Medium) and Paul (Close) were the only players who received changes to non-Inside/3pt/FT shooting ratings.
Paul George (and to an extent Kobe and Harden) were the only player(s) to receive a full-blown edit.
Derrick Rose went untouched.

It's clear that Block, Steal, ORB, and DRB were edited globally, so let's see how well these hold up to scale.

Name Block BLK%
Tim Duncan 99 6.4
Dwight Howard 92 4.9
Kevin Durant 74 2.6
LeBron James 63 1.9
Dwyane Wade 63 1.9
Derrick Rose 40 1.4
Paul George 54 1.3
Carmelo Anthony 48 1.1
James Harden 47 1.0
Jrue Holiday 44 0.9
Deron Williams 44 0.8
Kyrie Irving 43 0.8
Russell Westbrook 40 0.6
Kobe Bryant 39 0.6
Rajon Rondo 35 0.5
Chris Paul 30 0.4
Stephen Curry 29 0.3

We can see that leaving Derrick Rose's ratings alone simply because he missed all of last season actually hurts continuity because he was out of scale dating back to 2012.  He's a pretty good shot blocker for a guard.

Big men seem to have a different scale for block rating than perimeter players.  Dwight Howard blocks nearly twice as many shots as Kevin Durant (2.3% differential), yet the gap between he and Durant (18 points) is the same as the gap between Durant is much closer than Durant and Carmelo Anthony (26 points for 1.5% differential).  This study is limited by the fact that there are only two big men (Howard and Duncan) among the league's top 16 players in NBA 2K14.  Perhaps if players were held to the same global scale, this would not be the case.

Name Steal STL%
Chris Paul 93 3.8
Dwyane Wade 82 2.8
Russell Westbrook 80 2.6
Rajon Rondo 79 2.6
Paul George 78 2.6
James Harden 78 2.4
LeBron James 76 2.4
Kyrie Irving 75 2.3
Jrue Holiday 74 2.2
Stephen Curry 74 2.1
Kevin Durant 70 1.9
Kobe Bryant 69 1.8
Dwight Howard 66 1.6
Deron Williams 63 1.4
Derrick Rose 62 1.4
Tim Duncan 61 1.2
Carmelo Anthony 59 1.1

If you're thinking the ratings seem kind of high, you're not alone.  50 steal rating is the absolute lowest rating given to ANY NBA player who played last season (Ryan Hollins and Meyers Leonard, each with 0.5 STL%).  Of course, this didn't stop 2K Sports from giving out steal ratings under 50 to FIVE rookies.  Alex Len and Rudy Gobert are the new lows with 38 Steal, which would translate to ZERO STL% going with this scale.  I doubt whoever came up with the rookie ratings was the same person responsible for implementing the ratings changes to NBA players, else they would have followed scale.  All this does is confirm what we've known for years - that 2K Sports is majorly confused when it comes to their player ratings.  Having multiple editors who aren't on the same page is a probable cause.

What also doesn't make sense to me is that block rating seems to be using the full 25-99 scale while steals have been kept from 50-99.  Under block rating we see Stephen Curry (0.3 BLK%) at a paltry 29 block rating having an 11 point rating difference from Russell Westbrook (0.6 BLK%) despite a largely neglibible 0.3% difference.  For steals we see a 15 point difference between Carmelo Anthony (1.1 STL%) and Stephen Curry (2.1 STL%) for a full percentage point.

Name OffReb ORB%
Dwight Howard 83 10.4
Tim Duncan 71 7.3
Carmelo Anthony 68 6.1
Russell Westbrook 57 4.8
Dwyane Wade 55 4.7
LeBron James 54 4.4
Rajon Rondo 51 3.7
Paul George 51 3.4
Jrue Holiday 51 3.3
Chris Paul 46 2.8
Kobe Bryant 45 2.5
James Harden 44 2.4
Stephen Curry 44 2.3
Derrick Rose 48 2.1
Kyrie Irving 41 1.8
Kevin Durant 40 1.8
Deron Williams 33 1.2

2K Sports did well to reign in the offensive rebound ratings of many players like Melo and Durant who were clearly out of scale.  In NBA 2K13 Kevin Durant (60) had an ORB rating higher than LeBron James (55) and Russell Westbrook (56) which obviously made no sense.

Leaving Derrick Rose as is continues to hurt the continuity, as he's the only player out of scale.

Name DefReb DRB%
Tim Duncan 98 29.6
Dwight Howard 95 27.4
LeBron James 79 20.8
Kevin Durant 82 20.3
Paul George 77 19
Carmelo Anthony 62 15.9
Rajon Rondo 55 13.6
Kobe Bryant 57 13.1
Dwyane Wade 48 12.6
James Harden 48 11.9
Russell Westbrook 49 11.8
Kyrie Irving 41 10.8
Chris Paul 42 10.5
Jrue Holiday 39 9.5
Stephen Curry 40 9.1
Deron Williams 35 8.5
Derrick Rose 45 8.4

The scale for defensive rebounding is considerably murkier than it was for offensive rebounding, as a few players are clearly out of order.  Dwyane Wade most notably is within 0.5 percentage points of Kobe Bryant but trails him by 9 points, while Russell Westbrook trails Wade by 0.6 percentage points and actually has a rating one point higher.

Ignoring Derrick Rose hurts again since he should rank as the worst defensive rebounder on this list, but instead is comparable to Wade and Westbrook.

While it's nice that 2K has been paying more attention to stats, it would have been great to see them globally adjust more than four attributes for the entire league.  With the regular season concluding mid-April, they've had five and a half months to be working on player ratings.  That's nearly half a year spent on the sidelines doing very little.  The baby steps are welcome, but in this rapidly evolving age of technology, NBA fans expect much greater advances than what we've been given thus far.

1 comment:

kmax1223 said...

How Kyrie Irving was given a higher block rating than Westbrook is beyond me.