Thursday, September 9, 2010

Lakers vs Heat: Rashidi's NBA 2K11 Playoff Sim

DISCLAIMER: NBA 2K11 is not out yet. This is done on 2K10 with my advanced ratings that will be uploaded into 2K11 when it actually comes out.

I simulated an NBA playoffs based on my ratings and predictably got a Heat/Lakers NBA Finals.

Here's the box from each game.


Odom: 19-12-3-0-1 (8-11 FG, 1-1 3PT, 2-2 FT), 1 TO, 27 mins
Artest: 19-3-1-2-0 (7-10 FG, 3-4 3PT, 2-3 FT), 2 TO, 31 mins
Bryant: 18-4-10-2-0 (5-18 FG, 3-7 3PT, 5-7 FT), 3 TO, 37 mins
Bynum: 11-10-2-0-0 (5-9 FG, 0-0 3PT, 1-1 FT), 5 TO, 28 mins
Gasol: 7-7-0-0-1 (3-8 FG, 0-0 3PT, 1-1 FT), 2 TO, 21 mins, 4 fouls

Wade: 27-0-4-1-3 (10-16 FG, 3-6 3PT, 4-8 FT), 3 TO, 37 mins
Miller: 17-3-1-0-1 (4-6 FG, 1-1 3PT, 8-9 FT), 1 TO, 22 mins
James: 15-4-8-3-4 (5-16 FG, 1-6 3PT, 4-6 FT), 2 TO, 36 mins
Bosh: 13-9-0-0-0 (4-13 FG, 0-1 3PT, 5-6 FT), 0 TO, 36 mins
Chalmers: 9-1-6-4-0 (4-8 FG, 1-2 3PT, 0-0 FT), 1 TO, 27 mins

Gasol got into foul trouble, and Kobe struggled with his shot, but he set up his teammates and the Lakers were unexpectedly pushed by Artest/Odom to victory. Miami had a solid showing from Wade, but LeBron and Bosh shot the ball poorly against the Lakers' defense. LA won the 3rd quarter 41-23.


HEAT 102
Wade: 27-2-4-1-2 (7-15 FG. 1-3 3PT, 12-14 FT), 1 TO, 32 mins, 5 fouls
James: 25-4-9-2-1 (8-13 FG, 3-4 3PT, 6-6 FT), 4 TO, 38 mins
Bosh: 16-10-0-0-1 (8-19 FG, 0-1 3PT, 0-0 FT), 4 TO, 37 mins
Ilgauskas: 7-9-0-0-2 (3-5 FG, 0-0 3PT, 1-1 FT), 2 TO, 19 mins
Chalmers: 5-0-7-4-0 (2-5 FG, 0-2 PT, 1-1 FT), 4 TO, 27 mins

Odom: 24-5-2-2-1 (6-9 FG, 3-3 3PT, 9-10 FT), 2 TO, 30 mins, 5 fouls
Bynum: 15-8-2-0-0 (4-6 FG, 0-0 3PT, 7-7 FT), 1 TO, 20 mins, 4 fouls
Gasol: 11-11-3-0-2 (4-9 FG, 0-0 3PT, 3-3 FT), 2 TO, 38 mins, 4 fouls
Bryant: 11-1-4-2-0 (4-12 FG, 0-3 3PT, 3-5 FT), 6 TO, 31 mins, 5 fouls
Artest: 5-1-1-4-2 (2-5 FG, 1-4 3PT, 0-0 FT), 2 TO, 31 mins

The three kings were clicking on all cylinders, and LA was throughly embarrassed, losing the second quarter 28-9 after already losing the first quarter 31-21. Kobe shot the ball poorly again, but this time was a turnover machine instead of an effective distributor. Odom played very well again, this time filling in for foul plagued Bynum.


Bryant: 31-5-8-1-1 (12-24 FG, 2-10 3PT, 5-9 FT), 1 TO, 36 mins
Gasol: 28-12-4-1-2 (10-13 FG, 0-0 3PT, 8-9 FT), 1 TO, 37 mins
Odom: 15-14-6-1-0 (6-8 FG, 1-2 3PT, 2-2 FT), 0 TO, 29 mins
Artest: 13-2-1-5-0 (3-6 FG, 1-2 3PT, 6-6 FT), 3 TO, 31 mins
Bynum: 4-2-1-0-1 (2-8 FG, 0-0 3PT, 0-0 FT), 2 TO, 19 mins, 5 fouls

Wade: 27-4-3-1-0 (10-21 FG, 1-4 3PT, 6-7 FT), 3 TO, 37 mins
Bosh: 23-4-1-0-0 (9-15 FG, 0-1 3PT, 5-6 FT), 2 TO, 36 mins
James: 8-7-5-1-0 (3-12 FG, 0-3 3PT, 2-2 FT), 3 TO, 28 mins
Miller: 8-4-0-0-0 (3-5 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-3 FT), 3 TO, 25 mins
Ilgauskas: 6-9-0-0-2 (3-4 FG, 0-0 3PT, 0-0 FT), 1 TO, 17 mins

It was LA's turn to drop the beat on Miami, as Kobe and Gasol finally got their due. Lamar Odom is having a series for the ages, as he continues to effectively fill in for Gasol/Bynum whenever they get into foul trouble trying to stop Miami's drive game. LA lead this 38-17 after the 1st, and 62-32 at the half, ultimately winning by 36. LeBron James is clearly having great difficulty with Ron Artest and will need to pick it up if Miami is going to comeback from a 2-1 deficit.


Bryant: 33-5-0-1-0 (13-19 FG, 4-6 3PT, 3-5 FT), 6 TO, 37 mins
Blake: 16-2-3-0-0 (5-7 FG, 4-6 3PT, 2-2 FT), 1 TO, 21 mins
Gasol: 12-15-3-0-2 (4-7 FG, 0-0 3PT, 4-6 FT), 1 TO, 37 mins
Brown: 10-3-0-0-0 (3-4 FG, 2-3 3PT, 2-7 FT), 1 TO, 10 mins
Bynum: 6-6-0-1-2 (2-5 FG, 0-0 3PT, 2-6 FT), 2 TO, 29 mins

James: 34-8-5-3-0 (14-28 FG, 3-6 3PT, 3-4 FT), 1 TO, 36 mins
Wade: 20-3-6-3-1 (7-16 FG, 4-7 3PT, 2-4 FT), 1 TO, 37 mins
Bosh: 20-10-1-0-3-2 (5-9 FG, 0-0 3PT, 10-10 FT), 2 TO, 37 mins
Miller: 7-4-3-0-0 (2-7 FG, 1-3 3PT, 2-2 FT), 0 TO, 23 mins
Chalmers: 5-2-4-4-0 (2-4 FG, 1-3 3PT, 0-0 FT), 2 TO, 27 mins

Odom and Artest fell back down to earth, but the bench came through with some inspiring play from Blake and Brown in the backcourt. The three kings played about as well as you could expect and they still lost. This doesn't bode well for the team with the Lakers now leading the series 3-1.


HEAT 101
Bosh: 25-13-0-0-1 (7-16 FG, 1-2 3PT, 10-14 FT), 1 TO, 35 mins
James: 24-11-7-3-3 (8-16 FG, 1-3 3PT, 7-7 FT), 0 TO, 38 mins
Wade: 17-3-5-5-1 (6-13 FG, 1-3 3PT, 4-4 FT), 4 TO, 36 mins
Ilgauskas: 7-2-0-0-2-0 (2-7 FG, 0-0 3PT, 3-4 FT), 0 TO, 15 mins
Miller: 6-3-3-1-0-0 (2-3 FG, 2-3 3PT, 0-2 FT), 0 TO, 23 mins

Bryant: 18-4-5-0-0 (7-18 FG, 2-6 3PT, 2-2 FT), 8 TO, 36 mins
Artest: 17-2-0-3-0 (6-10 FG, 3-3 3PT, 2-2 FT), 2 TO, 31 mins
Fisher: 11-0-0-0-0 (4-9 FG, 3-5 3PT, 0-0 FT), 2 TO, 25 mins
Bynum: 10-7-3-1-2 (4-10 FG, 0-0 3PT, 2-2 FT), 2 TO, 31 mins, 4 fouls
Gasol: 7-9-0-0-2 (3-6 FG, 0-0 3PT, 1-2 FT), 0 TO, 18 mins, 4 fouls
Odom: 7-9-3-0-2 (3-9 FG, 0-0 3PT, 1-2 FT), 1 TO, 29 mins, 4 fouls
Barnes: 5-10-2-0-0 (2-6 FG, 0-0 3PT, 1-2 FT), 1 TO, 23 mins, 5 fouls

The Heat staved off elimination with big double-doubles from Bosh and LeBron. Kobe was a turnover machine once again, thanks in part to Wade's defense (5 steals). Gasol was in foul trouble all game thanks to Bosh/LeBron, and even Matt Barnes got some extended run due to all the fouls. Miami put the game away with a 51-35 second half, but still trail the series 3-2.


James: 28-10-5-2-1 (9-19 FG, 1-6 3PT, 9-10 FT), 3 TO, 37 mins
Wade: 23-5-8-4-4 (5-13 FG, 0-1 3PT, 13-13 FT), 3 TO, 36 mins
Bosh: 17-15-0-1-0 (6-11 FG, 0-0 FT, 5-6 FT), 2 TO, 32 mins
Miller: 7-5-1-0-0 (2-4 FG, 0-1 3PT, 3-4 FT), 0 TO, 24 mins
Haslem: 4-5-0-0-0 (2-9 FG, 0-0 3PT, 0-0 FT), 1 TO, 24 mins

Fisher: 14-1-0-1-0 (3-6 FG, 1-3 3PT, 7-9 FT), 4 TO, 25 mins
Gasol: 12-7-2-0-1 (4-11 FG, 0-0 3PT, 4-5 FT), 3 TO, 33 mins
Artest: 10-4-2-0-0 (3-5 FG, 0-1 3PT, 4-4 FT), 1 TO, 30 mins
Odom: 9-10-0-0-1 (4-11 FG, 0-3 3PT, 1-1 FT), 2 TO, 28 mins
Bryant: 7-1-2-1-0 (3-12 FG, 0-2 3PT, 101 FT), 6 TO, 28 mins, 5 fouls

Miami is simply killing it from the line, and Wade's defense on Kobe has been truly marvelous this series (posting a 4x5 tonight), and Kobe pretty much had the worst playoff game of his entire life, shooting poorly, and totaling more turnovers and fouls (11) than points, rebounds, and assists (10). The Heat just became the first team in Finals history to come back from a 3-1 deficit and send the series to game 7.


Bryant: 45-2-3-2-0 (16-24 FG, 0-1 3PT, 13-19 FT), 1 TO, 37 mins
Gasol: 22-6-0-0-3 (9-14 FG, 0-0 3PT, 4-4 FT), 1 TO, 34 mins, 5 fouls
Bynum: 13-11-0-0-0 (5-14 FG, 0-0 3PT, 3-4 FT), 3 TO, 30 mins
Odom: 11-12-7-0-2 (4-4 FG, 0-0 3PT, 3-3 FT), 0 TO, 28 mins
Blake: 8-0-6-0-0 (1-6 FG, 1-5 3PT, 5-6 FT),
Barnes: 6-3-0-0-0 (2-3 FG, 2-2 3PT, 0-0 FT), 0 TO, 25 mins
Fisher: 5-1-0-1-0 (2-5 FG, 1-4 3PT, 0-0 FT), 3 TO, 27 mins
Artest: 3-1-1-0-0 (1-4 FG, 0-0 3PT, 1-2 FT), 5 TO, 31 mins

HEAT 116
James: 33-5-7-3-2 (12-19 FG, 2-5 3PT, 7-8 FT), 5 TO, 36 mins, 4 fouls
Wade: 30-2-9-2-2 (13-26 FG, 3-6 3PT, 1-3 FT), 2 TO, 36 mins, 4 fouls
Bosh: 21-9-0-0-2 (9-14 FG, 0-2 3PT, 3-4 FG), 2 TO, 33 mins, 5 fouls
Ilgauskas: 9-5-0-0-0 (4-7 FG, 1-1 3PT, 0-3 FT), 2 TO, 23 mins
Arroyo: 7-1-3-0-0 (3-5 FG, 0-0 3PT, 1-1 FT), 1 TO, 14 mins
Chalmers: 5-2-5-3-0 (2-8 FG, 0-2 3PT, 1-1 FT), 0 TO, 27 mins
Haslem: 4-4-0-0-0 (1-1 FG, 0-0 3PT, 2-3 FT), 1 TO, 11 mins, 6 fouls
Anthony: 3-4-0-0-1 (1-1 FG, 0- 3PT, 1-2 FT), 0 TO, 20 mins, 6 fouls

This game fittingly went into overtime, and Kobe rebounded from his disastrous game 6 to post one of the greatest Game 7 Finals performances of all-time. LeBron and Wade on the other side dispensed their own brand of pain, both going off for 30+ points. In the end, Kobe prevailed by simply toying with Udonis Haslem, and forcing deep reserves Juwan Howard, James Jones, and Eddie House onto the court, where they proceeded to kill the Heat's chances (Miami was -11 w/ Jones on the court, and -14 with Howard/House out there (the three combined for 2 points on 0-5 FG in 41 minutes).

If real life goes anything like this, you can bet MBA fans will be pleased worldwide. For those wondering how the Heat and Lakers even got to the Finals...

Heat defeat Sixers in 5 games. Sixers won game 1 but didn't stand a chance the rest of the series.
Lakers defeat Rockets in 7 games. Kobe had 37 in game 7 while Gasol had 19/16.

Heat sweep the Hawks in dominant fashion. Wade dropped 52 points in game 2 on 20-24 FG, 5-6 3PT, 7-9 FT. Game 4 saw Josh Smith and Mike Bibby foul out in a short period of time (23 and 21 mins respectively)
Lakers defeat Thunder in 7 games. Kobe again had 37 in game 7, while Kevin Durant finished with 41 in this epic duel.

Heat defeat Magic in 7 games. Miami finally gets a tough matchup, as Dwight Howard is one of the few players that can expose Miami offensively while also defending them without getting into foul trouble. Rashard Lewis shot 1-12 in game 7 and the Heat escaped with a 1 point win (I can actually see this happening).
Lakers defeat Blazers in 5 games. Lakers finally play an easy series, highlighted by a 51 point win in game 2 (120-69). Roy had 5 fouls in 5 minutes. 2K could really stand to fix their sim engine.

In retrospect, I wish I'd tightened rotations a bit to reflect the playoffs (Big three and Kobe all likely averaging 40 mpg), as these were done with regular season rotation projections. At the least it would have created slightly gaudier numbers for the stars, and perhaps even affected the series outcome. That said, I am thoroughly content with the results. The best two teams in each conference made the Finals and battled to the death. It also exposed a major element teams are going to have to deal with to combat the Heat - foul trouble. The Lakers have the frontcourt depth needed to withstand Miami's paint onslaught, but most teams will not.


rashidi is a dumbass said...

get a life u freaking scrub
anybody who uses ur ratings r stupid
wow get a life

Shelb said...

Nice to see Basketcase still reads the blog...

Anonymous said...

so he comments and names himself like that,yup he has a life.

Anonymous said...

I have a little nitpick about Brad Miller..
His layup rating seems a bit low considering his game is either a mid-range shot or shot fake and drive. He seems to convert very difficult layups on a consistent basis.
I don't have any stats to prove this, but I'm basing it more off an eye test considering I watched the Bulls all season.

LoLBasketcase said...

Hey guys!

Rashidi said...

i'll look into it (Brad Miller)

Anonymous said...

hey rashidi, is nba2k11 a first day buy for you? are you going to try to get it early?
and is 2k share going to be available still? or do u kno?

Rashidi's My BItch... said...

Your full of shit rashidi!!! You act like your ratings on your bullshit 2k11 roster, can somehow be tranferable to the new game. man who ever believes this dumb shit has a mental capacity of a fuckn donut! All you Rashidi dick riders are a bunch of stupid ass fucks listening to this crap like rashidi is the king of 2k sports. In fact, he dosent really know anything about the simple things about basketball. Its assholes like you that ruin this game, claiming you have the # 1 Ratings and tendencies when they really suck!! It shows on your downloads!!! Nobodys interested in your Popcorn Peanut Downloads. Maybe you should move over to the playstation 3, being that your brother got one. Maybe you'll be more suck-cessfull.

Anonymous said...

Oh, ur erasing all negative tha asshole that you are!!!

Anonymous said...

Rashidi, Your a dumb ass If you think Your ratings are top notch. All you Rashidi Nut riders Keep thinking you can use his ratings on the new game. What a fuckn joke.... He has all you muthafaulkers

Anonymous said...

Your ratings can be uploaded to the new game when it comes out. What a fuckn joke!!!! Who ever believes this has a mental capacity of a donut!!! Rashidi, you have to face the fact that only a handfull of kids are interested in your bullshit rosters. Also, remember someone else is doing a better job. Theres a new Sheriff in town!!!! and it aint you...

Rashidi said...

I'm getting 2K11 early.

Rashidi said...

All the tendency/rating changes will be compatible with 2K11. I can't directly upload them in, but I can make the manual changes w/ ease.

Rashidi said...

Oh, ur erasing all negative comments

It originally showed up as "spam".

Don't worry basketcase, I have no problem showing 2K fans what kind of person you are.

Mike said...

Basketcase really is a basket case...

Anonymous said...

that dude is for real nuts, wow.
anyone who follows 2k knows their 'rating system' was overhauled LAST year. why would they do it again?
assuming they DONT overhaul again, then yes his ratings would/should transfer.

Anonymous said...

rashidi could you make a thread talking about nba2k11?
w/ the demo out and all and get your thoughts on the series progress and what not.

BasketCase is stupid said...

Hey guys I think Basketcase can't think for himself, that's why he has to steal rosters and upload it. Even admitted it himself. What a dumb faggot.

Anonymous said...

Any findings on the Brad Miller claim?

Rashidi said...

I wasn't impressed with the demo in terms of being a demo (extremely limiting, only able to pick the Lakers and can't call any plays????)

I mean, I guess you can tell the off-ball movement and defense is tighter, but you can't really test that if you can't even call a pick and roll.

Anonymous said...

kobe and big 3 averaging 40+ minutes? if u can edit it, it will benefit the lakers as they have a much deeper bench then miami. so the series will incline to lakers and series outcome will still be lakers. maybe in 5 or 6

Anonymous said...

Rashidi, you can call for a quick PnR using the left bumper. But that's it.

Rashidi said...

kobe and big 3 averaging 40+ minutes? if u can edit it, it will benefit the lakers as they have a much deeper bench then miami. so the series will incline to lakers and series outcome will still be lakers. maybe in 5 or 6

That would actually benefit Miami more.

Miami's rotation would be something like...
PG: Chalmers (28), Arroyo (10), Wade (10)
SG: Wade (31), Miller (17)
SF: James (41), Miller (7)
PF: Bosh (40), Haslem (8)
C: Anthony (24), Ilgauskas (12), Haslem (12)

So that's...
96 James (41)
95 Wade (41)
86 Bosh (40)
70 Chalmers (28)
69 Miller (26)
66 Anthony (24)
73 Haslem (20)
70 Ilgauskas (12)
70 Arroyo (10)

I'm still trying to figure out this illusion that Miami has a weak bench, but anyway, how does it logically work that the bench is a problem if they barely play due to the starters getting the lionshare of the playing time?

Lakers on the other hand...
PG: Fisher (30), Blake (18)
SG: Bryant (40), Brown (8)
SF: Artest (34), Barnes (14)
PF: Gasol (28), Odom (20)
C: Bynum (28), Gasol (20)

91 Bryant (40)
84 Gasol (38)
76 Artest (34)
66 Fisher (30)
78 Bynum (28)
79 Odom (20)
67 Blake (18)
72 Barnes (14)
71 Brown (8)

LA's depth is wasted. Odom played a lot during the playoffs but that's ONLY because Bynum wasn't healthy. A healthy Bynum means limited minutes for Odom.

Likewise, Matt Barnes isn't going to cut very much into Ron Artest's PT barring any mental breakdowns. Shannon Brown barely played in the playoffs as it was, and his PT is affected by Barnes because Kobe won't really get SF minutes now.

Barnes really wasn't a player that LA needed, and his presence is going to create a minutes crunch that some guys may not be happy with.

2010's Playoff Run
Kobe (40)
Gasol (40)
Artest (37)
Fisher (33)
Odom (29)
Bynum (24)
Brown (14)
Farmar (13)

Bynum will cut into those minutes, and Barnes will cut into everyone else. Unless you think Steve Blake will be a major upgrade over Farmar (and consequently, take minutes away from Fisher), it's tough to see how the Lakers bench is some sort of difference maker in a series with the Heat.

Anonymous said...

Tim Thomas has left the Mavericks to be with his wife.

Anonymous said...

thats all your going to say about nba 2k11?

have you not read any of the info reguarding the game?

i mean, its whatever but if you want the mass majority to use your rosters for nba 2k11, quit obsessing over 2k10.
2k11 has authentic plays, mix that w/ your tendencies and it could be epic. you can sizeup and choose hands. break out of any animation.
i mean 2k10 is dead in about 3 weeks. start learning about 2k11

I just have a question, what are you going to do if 2k uses synergy and your no longer needed? and your awful critical of a game that w/o this game who the f*** would u be?

Anonymous said...

some of the new tendencies that we added for 2K11:

Tendency to use glass: Giving some love to Tim Duncan and Dwyane Wade
Tendency to Give an Go: Before this was somewhat random, now guys will pass and cut realistically based on their real life tendencies
Playmaker tendency: We really wanted to differentiate pass-first players from shoot-first players. Now guys like Steve Nash and Chris Paul will do a much better job creating offense for their teammates.
Touches tendency: This was a big one for me. We really wanted players who “dominate” the ball to feel like they controlled the ball on offense much more. Whereas before, the PG typically had the ball a majority of the time in the half-court… when things broke down you’d see the PG take over and shoot more often than we wanted. With the Touches tendency, we can ensure that the stars have the ball in their hands more, and as a result, take those tough shots to bail out their teams when plays break down. It also allowed us to re-work the way we initiate plays, which I’ll expand on shortly.
Tendency to attack strong: Some players like to bull their way through the defense when attacking the rim, while others shy away from the contact. That should now come through in NBA 2K11
Tendency to use the new shots: I’ll be going into more detail later on what all these new shots are in a later Insight, but for now, just know that there’s plenty of cool new “stuff” you can do with the Shot Stick. Obviously, it’s important that our AI players not only use all the new shot types, but also in the correct situations. Our AI engineers spent a lot of time working on this logic and it really shows. One of the coolest things to see when you’re playing against the AI, is have them break you down with a nice dribble move, see a hole in your defense, and attack it properly with the right finish. It really goes a long way to making you feel like you’re playing another intelligent human opponent rather than a machine that just randomly pushes buttons.
Dribble Move Tendencies: These were in last year as well but with the addition of new moves, it gave us the chance to go in and improve AI ball handler drive behaviors and their use of Isomotion. Instead of just standing around waiting for plays to develop, the AI will now make good use of the improved size up dribble moves, protect the ball properly when pressured, and respond appropriately when given too much space or an open lane. These changes make our AI-controlled ball handlers look much more intelligent and really put you on your toes when you’re playing defense.
Tendency for putback dunks/layups: Before this was more or less random, now guys like Dwight will be a problem on the offensive glass.

On top of giving the AI more tendencies, there were a lot of other improvements made to the AI engine to make it smarter in its attack. End of game logic was a big one as well. There’s nothing worse than having an epic back and forth battle with the AI only to have it make a bone-headed decision in the closing moments to seal its fate. Too many times the AI would dribble out the entire shot clock when needing a quick basket, fire up a long deuce when down by three, or rush in for a forced shot when it could’ve dribbled out the clock for a win. We spent a lot of time cleaning up those types of issues in NBA 2K11.

Rashidi said...

I don't have a problem with any of those. Touches seems like a modificication of Shot Tendency. The main thing it will do is make sure guys like Derek Fisher are playing off-ball (or likewise, Ron Harper and Steve Kerr). That was absolutely crucial if you're going to have a game with Jordan in it, how pissed would everyone be if Ron Harper and John Paxson did the majority of the ball handling for the Bulls instead of MJ/Pip?

I'd be able to play with basketcuts using Synergy data, but my subscription will likely be up before I get my hands on a copy of the game. I COULD jot all the info down, but I'd rather wait to see how the tendency works before coming up with anything concrete.

Anonymous said...

i would jot anything down that you think you may need just in case.
it will be worth it in the long run.

Anonymous said...

So.. about that Brad Miller claim...

Rashidi said...

5 point layup increase.

Anonymous said...

Coaching profiles??? Any update yet??

Anonymous said...

Rashidi, im not liking all these bad comments about you like your rating changes , there Grawsome