Thursday, September 16, 2010

Rashidi's NBA 2K11 Player Ratings

NOTE: These are NOT the official ratings for NBA 2K11. These are my NBA 2K10 ratings in my 2K11 roster file, which were compiled using multiple sources including the Synergy Sports Technology service. The majority of these ratings should transfer seamlessly over to the real NBA 2K11 when the game drops next month.

To view the original post and team ratings, click here

AVERAGE RATING OF NBA STARTER
PG: 77
SG: 75
SF: 75
PF: 77
C: 75

RATING GUIDE
95-99: Goats (Greatest of All-Time. Not the animal.)
90-94: Superstar (All-NBA First Team mainstays)
85-89: Perennial All-Star (All-NBA Second Team)
80-84: All-Star Caliber (possible All-Stars or even All-NBA Third Team)
75-79: Average NBA Starter (or Sixth Man of Year contenders)
70-74: Below Average Starter (or typical 6th/7th men)
65-69: Rotation Player (8th-10th men)
60-64: End of Bench (11th-15th men and most D-League callups)
55-59: Should not be in NBA (i.e. training camp invites w/ non-guaranteed deals)
50-54: Hopefully earned their college degree.

PHILADELPHIA 76ERS
80 - Andre Iguodala (SG/SF)
80 – Evan Turner (SF/SG)
77 - Elton Brand (PF/C)
75 - Louis Williams (PG/SG)
73 – Marreese Speights (C)
71 - Thaddeus Young (PF/SF)
70 – Jrue Holliday (PG)
70 - Willie Green (SG/PG)
68 – Spencer Hawes (C)
67 – Andres Nocioni (SF/PF)
64 – Jodie Meeks (SG)
63 – Jason Smith (C/PF)
60 – Tony Battie (C/PF)
58 - Jason Kapono (SF)

CHARLOTTE BOBCATS
83 - Gerald Wallace (SF/PF)
78 - Stephen Jackson (SG/SF)
78 – Tyrus Thomas (PF/C)
73 - Nazr Mohammed (C)
71 - Boris Diaw (PF/C)
71 - Erick Dampier (C)
67 - Shaun Livingston (PG)
67 – D.J. Augustin (PG)
66 – Derrick Brown (SF/PF)
65 – Kwame Brown (C)
64 – Dominic McGuire (SF)
62 - Eduardo Najera (PF/C)
62 – Sherron Collins (PG)
61 - DeSagana Diop (C)
61 - Matt Carroll (SG/SF)
59 – Gerald Henderson (SG)

MILWAUKEE BUCKS
80 - Andrew Bogut (C)
79 – Brandon Jennings (PG)
77 - Corey Maggette (SF/PF)
77 - John Salmons (SG/SF)
73 - Drew Gooden (PF/C)
73 – Carlos Delfino (SF)
72 - Keyon Dooling (PG/SG)
71 – Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (PF/SF)
70 - Ersan Ilyasova (PF)
70 – Earl Boykins (PG)
67 – Chris Douglas-Roberts (SG/SF)
66 – Larry Sanders (C/PF)
66 – Darington Hobson (SF)
66 - Michael Redd (SG/SF)
64 – Jon Brockman (PF)
59 - Tiny Gallon (C/PF)

CHICAGO BULLS
85 - Carlos Boozer (PF/C)
82 – Derrick Rose (PG)
77 – Joakim Noah (C/PF)
75 – Luol Deng (SF/PF)
73 – Taj Gibson (PF)
70 - Ronnie Brewer (SG/SF)
69 – C.J. Watson (PG)
69 - Kurt Thomas (C)
68 - Kyle Korver (SF/SG)
68 – James Johnson (SF/PF)
64 – Omer Asik (C)
61 – Keith Bogans (SG/SF)
61 - John Lucas (PG)

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
75 - Antawn Jamison (PF)
74 - Mo Williams (PG)
73 - Anderson Varejao (C/PF)
70 - Joey Graham (SF)
69 – J.J. Hickson (C/PF)
69 – Jamario Moon (SF/SG)
68 - Leon Powe (PF)
67 - Anthony Parker (SG/SF)
66 – Ryan Hollins (C)
65 – Ramon Sessions (PG)
65 - Jawad Williams (SF/SG)
61 - Daniel Gibson (PG/SG)
61 – Christian Eyenga (SG/SF)
60 – Danny Green (SG/SF)
60 - Samardo Samuels (C/PF)

BOSTON CELTICS
85 - Rajon Rondo (PG)
82 - Kevin Garnett (PF)
80 - Paul Pierce (SF)
78 – Shaquille O’Neal (C)
77 - Jermaine O’Neal (C)
77 - Kendrick Perkins (C)
75 - Ray Allen (SG/SF)
75 - Delonte West (SG/PG)
74 – Nate Robinson (PG)
71 – Glen Davis (PF)
68 - Marquis Daniels (SF/SG)
65 – Von Wafer (SG)
65 – Avery Bradley (SG/PG)
64 – Luke Harangody (PF)
61 – Semih Erden (C)
60 – Oliver Lafayette (PG)
60 – Tony Gaffney (PF/SF)

LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS
81 - Baron Davis (PG)
79 – Blake Griffin (PF/C)
75 - Chris Kaman (C)
72 – Eric Gordon (SG)
72 - Craig Smith (PF)
69 - Rasual Butler (SF/SG)
69 – Ryan Gomes (SF/PF)
69 – Al-Farouq Aminu (SF/PF)
69 - Randy Foye (PG/SG)
64 – Eric Bledsoe (PG/SG)
64 – Marqus Blakely (SF/PF)
62 – DeAndre Jordan (C)
62 – Willie Warren (SG)
59 – Brian Cook (PF)

MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES
80 - Zach Randolph (PF/C)
79 - Rudy Gay (SF/PF)
77 – Marc Gasol (C)
74 – O.J. Mayo (SG)
73 - Michael Conley (PG)
67 - Tony Allen (SG)
66 – Sam Young (SF/SG)
66 – Darrell Arthur (PF/C)
66 – Greivis Vasquez (PG/SG)
65 – Hasheem Thabeet (C)
65 – Xavier Henry (SG/SF)
63 – Acie Law (PG)
63 – DeMarre Carroll (SF/PF)
62 – Hamed Haddadi (C)

ATLANTA HAWKS
83 - Joe Johnson (SG/SF)
81 - Al Horford (C/PF)
80 - Josh Smith (PF)
76 - Jamal Crawford (SG/PG)
70 - Mike Bibby (PG)
70 - Marvin Williams (SF/PF)
69 – Jeff Teague (PG)
68 - Zaza Pachulia (C)
67 – Jordan Crawford (SG)
66 – Maurice Evans (SF/SG)
63 - Etan Thomas (C)
62 - Josh Powell (PF/C)
61 – Pape Sy (SF/SG)
53 - Jason Collins (C)

MIAMI HEAT
95 - LeBron James (SF/PF)
94 – Dwyane Wade (SG/PG)
86 - Chris Bosh (PF/C)
73 - Udonis Haslem (PF/C)
70 – Mario Chalmers (PG)
70 – Carlos Arroyo (PG)
70 - Zydrunas Ilgauskas (C)
69 - Mike Miller (SG/SF)
66 – Joel Anthony (C)
66 - Juwan Howard (PF/C)
63 – Da’Sean Butler (SF)
62 - Eddie House (PG/SG)
61 - James Jones (SF)
61 - Jamaal Magloire (C)
61 – Dexter Pittman (C)
61 – Patrick Beverley (PG)
60 – Kenny Hasbrouck (PG)
60 - Shavlik Randolph (PF)

NEW ORLEANS HORNETS
91 - Chris Paul (PG)
78 - David West (PF)
78 - Emeka Okafor (C)
73 – Trevor Ariza (SF/SG)
70 – Marcus Thornton (SG)
70 – Quincy Pondexter (SF)
67 – Aaron Gray (C)
65 - Peja Stojakovic (SF)
65 - Darius Songaila (PF/C)
65 – Craig Brackins (PF/C)
64 – Marco Belinelli (SG)
61 – Mustafa Shakur (PG)

UTAH JAZZ
89 - Deron Williams (PG)
79 - Al Jefferson (C/PF)
78 - Paul Millsap (PF)
77 - Andrei Kirilenko (SF/PF)
76 - Mehmet Okur (C)
71 - Raja Bell (SG/SF)
69 - C.J. Miles (SF/SG)
67 – Gordon Hayward (SF)
66 - Ronnie Price (PG/SG)
65 – Sundiata Gaines (PG)
62 – Kyrylo Fesenko (C)
62 – Jeremy Evans (PF)
61 – Othyus Jeffers (SG/SF)
59 - Francisco Elson (C)

SACRAMENTO KINGS
82 – Tyreke Evans (SG/PG)
77 – Carl Landry (PF)
75 – DeMarcus Cousins (C)
73 - Samuel Dalembert (C)
72 – Jason Thompson (PF/C)
72 – Omri Casspi (SF/SG)
71 - Beno Udrih (PG)
69 - Francisco Garcia (SG/SF)
66 – Donte Greene (SF/PF)
66 - Antoine Wright (SF/SG)
66 - Luther Head (SG)
66 – Hassan Whiteside (C)
65 – Pooh Jeter (PG)
62 – J.R. Giddens (SF/SG)
58 – Darnell Jackson (PF/C)

NEW YORK KNICKS
85 - Amare Stoudemire (PF/C)
75 - Raymond Felton (PG)
75 – Wilson Chandler (SF/PF)
74 – Anthony Randolph (PF/SF)
72 – Danilo Gallinari (SF/SG)
72 – Toney Douglas (PG/SG)
69 - Kelenna Azubuike (SG/SF)
68 - Ronny Turiaf (C)
66 - Roger Mason (SG)
66 – Bill Walker (SG/SF)
64 – Landry Fields (SF)
62 – Timofey Mozgov (C)
60 – Andy Rautins (SG)
60 – Eddy Curry (C)
59 – Patrick Ewing Jr. (PF/SF)

LOS ANGELES LAKERS
91 – Kobe Bryant (SG/SF)
84 - Pau Gasol (PF/C)
79 – Lamar Odom (PF)
78 – Andrew Bynum (C)
76 - Ron Artest (SF/PF)
72 - Matt Barnes (SF)
71 - Shannon Brown (SG/PG)
67 – Steve Blake (PG)
66 – Derek Fisher (PG)
66 – Luke Walton (SF)
64 – Derrick Caracter (PF/C)
62 - Theo Ratliff (C)
62 – Sasha Vujacic (SG)
60 – Devin Ebanks (SF)

ORLANDO MAGIC
92 – Dwight Howard (C)
78 - Vince Carter (SG/SF)
78 – Jameer Nelson (PG)
73 – Marcin Gortat (C)
72 - Rashard Lewis (PF)
72 - Mickael Pietrus (SF)
72 - Brandon Bass (PF)
70 – Quentin Richardson (SF)
70 – Jason Williams (PG)
69 – J.J. Redick (SG)
69 – Chris Duhon (PG)
69 – Ryan Anderson (PF)
64 – Stanley Robinson (SF)
60 – Daniel Orton (C)

DALLAS MAVERICKS
82 – Dirk Nowitzki (PF/C)
77 - Jason Kidd (PG/SG)
77 - Caron Butler (SF/SG)
74 - Jason Terry (SG)
73 - Shawn Marion (SF/PF)
72 - Brendan Haywood (C)
72 – Rodrigue Beaubois (PG/SG)
71 - Tyson Chandler (C)
70 – J.J. Barea (PG)
70 – Dominique Jones (SG)
64 – Ian Mahinmi (C)
61 - Dee Brown (PG)
58 - DeShawn Stevenson (SG)
53 – Alexis Ajinca (PF/C)

NEW JERSEY NETS
79 - Devin Harris (PG)
77 – Brook Lopez (C)
74 - Kris Humphries (PF/C)
73 - Troy Murphy (PF/C)
72 – Derrick Favors (PF/C)
71 - Travis Outlaw (SF/PF)
71 – Terrence Williams (SG/SF)
71 – Damion James (SF)
70 – Jordan Farmar (PG)
68 - Anthony Morrow (SG/SF)
63 - Johan Petro (C)
61 - Quinton Ross (SG/SF)
61 – Ben Uzoh (PG/SG)
58 – Brian Zoubek (C)

DENVER NUGGETS
84 - Carmelo Anthony (SF)
79 - Chauncey Billups (PG/SG)
79 – Nene (C)
75 - Kenyon Martin (PF)
74 - Al Harrington (PF/C)
74 - J.R. Smith (SG/SF)
74 – Ty Lawson (PG)
71 – Chris Andersen (C/PF)
69 – Arron Afflalo (SG)
69 - Renaldo Balkman (SF/PF)
68 - Shelden Williams (PF/C)
64 - D.J. Mbenga (C)
62 – Anthony Carter (PG/SG)
61 – Coby Karl (SG/SF)

INDIANA PACERS
82 - Danny Granger (SF/PF)
82 – Darren Collison (PG)
75 – Roy Hibbert (C)
72 - T.J. Ford (PG)
71 – Dahntay Jones (SG/SF)
71 – Tyler Hansbrough (PF)
69 – Paul George (SF/SG)
69 - Mike Dunleavy (SF/SG)
69 – A.J. Price (PG/SG)
66 – Brandon Rush (SG/SF)
65 - James Posey (SF/PF)
65 – Josh McRoberts (PF)
64 - Jeff Foster (C)
64 – Lance Stephenson (SG)
61 – Solomon Jones (C)

DETROIT PISTONS
75 - Tayshaun Prince (SF)
75 – Rodney Stuckey (PG/SG)
75 – Ben Gordon (SG)
74 - Richard Hamilton (SG/SF)
74 – Jason Maxiell (C/PF)
73 – Ben Wallace (C)
72 – Will Bynum (PG)
71 – Jonas Jerebko (PF/SF)
71 – Tracy McGrady (SF/SG)
70 - Charlie Villanueva (PF)
70 – Greg Monroe (C/PF)
70 – Austin Daye (SF)
68 - Chris Wilcox (PF/C)
66 – Terrico White (SG/PG)
62 – DaJuan Summers (SF/PF)

TORONTO RAPTORS
73 - Andrea Bargnani (C/PF)
72 - Jose Calderon (PG)
72 - Jarrett Jack (PG/SG)
72 – Amir Johnson (PF)
71 - Leandro Barbosa (SG/PG)
71 – Ed Davis (PF/C)
68 - Linas Kleiza (SF/PF)
68 - Reggie Evans (PF/C)
67 – DeMar DeRozan (SF/SG)
65 – Sonny Weems (SG/SF)
65 – David Andersen (C)
65 - Marcus Banks (PG)
63 – Julian Wright (SF/PF)
61 – Solomon Alabi (C)
61 – Joey Dorsey (C/PF)

HOUSTON ROCKETS
83 – Yao Ming (C)
79 – Aaron Brooks (PG)
77 – Luis Scola (PF/C)
76 - Kevin Martin (SG)
73 - Kyle Lowry (PG/SG)
72 - Shane Battier (SF/SG)
70 – Jordan Hill (PF/C)
69 – Courtney Lee (SG/SF)
69 – Patrick Patterson (PF/C)
68 - Brad Miller (C)
68 - Chuck Hayes (C)
68 – Jared Jeffries (PF/SF)
67 – Chase Budinger (SF)
65 – Mike Harris (PF)
63 – Alexander Johnson (PF)
62 – Jermaine Taylor (SG)
60 – Ishmael Smith (PG)

SAN ANTONIO SPURS
87 - Tim Duncan (C)
82 - Manu Ginobili (SG/SF)
79 - Tony Parker (PG)
75 – Tiago Splitter (PF/C)
74 - DeJuan Blair (C/PF)
73 - Richard Jefferson (SF/PF)
68 – George Hill (PG/SG)
68 - Antonio McDyess (PF)
68 - Matt Bonner (PF)
68 – James Anderson (SF/SG)
67 – Gary Neal (SG)
67 – Alonzo Gee (SF/SG)
63 – Garrett Temple (SG/PG)
61 – Curtis Jerrells (PG)

PHOENIX SUNS
84 - Steve Nash (PG)
74 - Josh Childress (SF/SG)
74 – Grant Hill (SF/SG)
72 - Jason Richardson (SG)
72 – Robin Lopez (C)
71 – Jared Dudley (SF)
71 – Goran Dragic (PG/SG)
70 – Hedo Turkoglu (PF/SF)
69 - Hakim Warrick (PF)
68 - Channing Frye (C)
65 - Gani Lawal (PF/C)
62 – Earl Clark (PF/SF)
60 – Dwayne Jones (C)
60 – Matt Janning (SG)

OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER
89 - Kevin Durant (SF)
83 – Russell Westbrook (PG)
78 – James Harden (SG)
74 – Jeff Green (PF/SF)
73 – Serge Ibaka (PF/C)
71 – D.J. White (PF)
68 - Nenad Krstic (C)
68 - Nick Collison (C/PF)
68 – Eric Maynor (PG)
67 – Thabo Sefolosha (SG/SF)
67 – Cole Aldrich (C)
63 – Daequan Cook (SG/SF)
61 - Royal Ivey (PG/SG)
59 – Morris Peterson (SF/SG)
57 – Byron Mullens (C)

MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES
82 – Kevin Love (PF/C)
76 – Michael Beasley (PF/SF)
76 – Johny Flynn (PG)
75 - Luke Ridnour (PG)
73 – Wesley Johnson (SF/SG)
69 – Corey Brewer (SG/SF)
68 – Nikola Pekovic (C)
68 - Sebastian Telfair (PG)
67 - Martell Webster (SF)
67 – Anthony Tolliver (PF/C)
66 – Darko Milicic (C)
66 – Lazar Hayward (SF)
65 – Wayne Ellington (SG)
61 – Kosta Koufos (C/PF)

PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS
86 - Brandon Roy (SG/SF)
80 – Greg Oden (C)
77 - LaMarcus Aldridge (PF/C)
77 - Marcus Camby (C)
74 - Andre Miller (PG)
72 – Nicolas Batum (SF)
71 – Jerryd Bayless (PG/SG)
70 - Joel Przybilla (C)
69 – Wesley Matthews (SG)
68 – Luke Babbitt (SF)
68 – Rudy Fernandez (SG)
68 - Dante Cunningham (PF)
66 – Elliot Williams (SG)
64 – Jeff Pendergraph (PF/C)
63 – Armon Johnson (PG)

GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS
81 – David Lee (PF/C)
80 - Monta Ellis (SG/PG)
80 – Stephen Curry (PG/SG)
71 – Ekpe Udoh (PF/C)
70 - Louis Amundson (PF)
69 - Andris Biedrins (C)
69 – Reggie Williams (SF/SG)
68 – Brandan Wright (PF)
67 - Dorell Wright (SF/PF)
66 - Rodney Carney (SF/SG)
66 - Charlie Bell (SG/SF)
63 – Jeremy Lin (PG)
62 - Dan Gadzuric (C)
59 – Vladimir Radmanovic (PF)

WASHINGTON WIZARDS
81 - Gilbert Arenas (SG/PG)
78 - Andray Blatche (PF/C)
77 – John Wall (PG)
75 – Kirk Hinrich (PG/SG)
73 - Josh Howard (SF/SG)
72 – Al Thornton (SF)
69 – Trevor Booker (PF)
68 – JaVale McGee (C)
68 – Yi Jianlian (PF)
68 – Nick Young (SG/SF)
64 – Kevin Seraphin (C)
64 - Cartier Martin (SF)
64 – Lester Hudson (PG)
63 - Hilton Armstrong (C)
56 - Sean Marks (C/PF)

FREE AGENTS
75 - Allen Iverson (SG/PG)
71 - Erick Dampier (C)
69 - Larry Hughes (SG)
63 - Jannero Pargo (PG)
62 - Patrick Mills (PG)
60 – Greg Stiemsma (C)

93 comments:

Shelb said...

Great. Thanks man. Have you seen any news on NBA 2K11? They are added a few new categories to ratings that make things more realistic. I don't remember them off the top but I'll try to find the info.

Shelb said...

Well, I forgot where I saw it, but there are a few new attributes for each player. Either way, shouldn't be a huge difference once the game comes out.

Anonymous said...

One small thing: you have Dajuan Summers listed as a PF/C. He definitely played more SF last year with a tiny bit of PF.

Shelb said...

To continue the last thread...

Jordan's ratings do seem a bit more based on nostalgia than fact.

Jordan will undoubtedly he a beast at dunking in the 90s despite losing hops and becoming a more complete player.

Jordan will be overrated in places of corse, but the bigger problem will be every player on each team from 3 down. Paxson and Kerr will have 95-99 3 point ratings for sure, yet Bird will have a 80 3pt rating. etc etc.

I'd love for you to go over the legends teams in 2k10 and just fix things like Wilt 5060's stamina (should be 99), Bird's 3pt and shot in traffic ratings, Olajuwon's block, post, rebound ratings... Bill Walton's rating PERIOD (he's one of the lowest rated legends and would be backing up Shaq this year based on this game.

Plus the created Barkley 90s you added in in the low-mis 90s.

Etc Etc. I went through the legends teams and edited the ratings to the best of my ability based on basketball-reference and compared to ratings you have other players at with the same/similar stats (ie, if a player had a 45% 3pt I made it the same then added or deduced points based on how often each player would be open).

Going over the legends wouldn't be a lost cause because a good chunk are either confirmed for the Jordan challenge or are no doubt back for the all-decade teams again this year.

Shelb said...

Buy my book! It's called post #4 on Rashidi's blog! Coming after minutes ago!

Rashidi said...

Ugh, 82games strikes again w/ Summers. I was pretty tired when I looked at the data.

http://www.82games.com/0910/09DET11.HTM#5man

They have him as PF/C but it's clear from looking at the lineups closely he should be SF/PF. They have Maxiell and Villanueva at SF in Summers lineups. This is why I've used 82games less and less with each passing season.

Moving Summers to SF and I'll also move Wilcox back to PF with this change.

Anonymous said...

I hope that you will post full ratings for every player...

Anonymous said...

Thanks Rashidi! This is truly awesome. Looking forward to getting the Bucks to challenge in the East!

Anonymous said...

Linas Kleiza is the best player on this years Raptors roster - no doubts about it - unfortunately your rating didn't show that!! :(

Rashidi said...

Actually that just reminded me, I need to move Bogut to the IR because he probably won't be healthy until December.

Rashidi said...

It takes more than FIBA performance to convince me.

Kleiza's a good scorer no doubt, but he's not much of a defender, rebounder, passer...

Anonymous said...

Re Bogut: the most recent injury reports have been suggesting that he may be good to go for training camp. He is back in Milwaukee now, working through his rehab and consulting with team doctors about his progress.

I think it is too early to assume either way whether he will be back for the start of the season, or whether it won't be in December. Given his capacity to recover quicker than expected from other injuries, I wouldn't place him on the IR list just yet. But hey, it's your roster, so I guess it is really your choice ;)

Theo said...

hey man when I downloaded your new roster Etan Thomas is still rated a 60, can u re-upload please

Rashidi said...

That's because Etan Thomas IS a 60.

Rashidi said...

Aw crap. LOL. Looks like I didn't save my changes to Etan. So I need to edit AND re-upload.

Anonymous said...

All the Overalls of the player look perfect(not that I should be telling you that) What jumps out at me is Ron Artest. I cannot believe 2K had him at an 80. In my association he was scoring over 20 ppg! By far the best looking roster ratings I have seen, too bad I do not have a 360. I will be tweaking 2Ks roster to try match yours. Someone please rate his rosters for me! Clearly should be top rated.

Thanks,
Kevin

Anonymous said...

Why is Odom rated higher than Ray Allen?

daca said...

Just a little side note when i was playing with the wiz and had auto subs on and suddenly Hilton armstrong was subbed in at SF. and secondly Sean Marks has a 3-year deal when i was starting an Association. I don't think that the WIz are planning to give him a contract for 3 years. Besides that minor issues this Rosters are just Awesome!!! Thumbs up!

Rashidi said...

Ugh, I hate everytime I add a player you have to fix the contract because 2K automatically gives them 3 year deals.

They should have whatever contract that they had when they were in the free agent pool.

Anonymous said...

this is no biggie but you have just 1 missing player in your roster, PG Donald Sloan on the Kings. i believe he has a 1 year, guaranteed deal.

Anonymous said...

Great.Thanks man. the ratings were rathar useful to me... However i have some doubts about how u rate certain teams and players
1) Top 3 players
How can u rate kobe at 91 only with wade and lebron 3 and 4 ratings higher than him. imo the difference between tis 3 players is only at MOST 2.D howard better than kobe by 1? Nah ask any gm in the nba who they will take, all of them will take kobe anytime. kobe's game still there... dont really agree with u here.
2)Power forward rankings
Boozer and bosh higher than gasol. i dont really see that happening. toronto has no good scorers nor rebounders. tats why the pumped up stats. i will take boozer at 86 gasol at 85 and bosh at 84...
3)Miami Heat
Like what i said previous, wade james and bosh ratings need to scale down to fit the rest.
Mario Chalmers and Carlos Arroyo: .Come on Man! They arent even starters....totally dont deserve to be 70 especially when fisher and blake are in the 60s. (ought to be low 70s)
4)Celtics
KG(he still got gas left in his tank :))
Allen(75 same as delonte west? no way dude...)
Shaq(he needs to be in low 80)how can he be worse than a greg oden?

Dun forgot tis was the team which decimated lebron and his gang...

5) the rest
peja stojakovic.. NO WAY.....
Melo at 84 with durant at 89 is a bit off.
Wall was no 1 in rookie ladder of summer league. how can he be 5 rating worse than a evan turner who screwed up the summer league totally. imo on his way to being a draft bust :(
6)Lakers and Heat players
Derrick caracter at 64 too high imo. should be 60 to 61
Walton should be 63
Joel anthony should increase till low 70s and dexter pittman should at least get 64.

Dont know if u were take such a long time to read my post but good job for uploading them anyway

a Wizards fan.

Anonymous said...

PG
1- C.Paul 91
2- D.Williams 89
3- R.Rondo 85
4- S.Nash 84
4-R.Westbrook 84
6- D.Rose 82
6- D.Collison 82
8- B.Davis 81
8- G.Arenas 81
10- S.Curry 80
11- B.Jennings 79
11- D.Harris 79
11- C.Billups 79
11- A.Brooks 79
11- T.Parker 79
16- J.Nelson 78
17- J.Kidd 77
17- J.Wall 77
19- J.Flynn 76
20- L.Williams 75
20- R.Felton 75
20- R.Stuckey 75
20- L.Ridnour 75
20- K.Hinrich 75
25- M.Williams 74
25- T.Lawson 74
25- A.Miller 74
28- M.Conley 73
28- K.Lowry 73
30- K.Dooling 72
30- T.Douglas 72
30- R.Beaubois 72
30- T.Ford 72
30- W.Bynum 72
30- J.Calderon 72
30- J.Jack 72
37- B.Udrih 71
37- G.Dragic 71
37- J.Bayless 71
40- J.Holiday 70
40- E.Boykins 70
40- M.Bibby 70
40- M.Chalmers 70
40- C.Arroyo 70
40- J.Williams 70
40- J.Barea 70
40- J.Farmar 70
48- C.Watson 69
48- R.Foye 69
48- J.Teague 69
48- C.Duhon 69
48- A.Price 69
53- G.Hill 68
53- E.Maynor 68
53- S.Telfair 68
56- S.Livingston 67
56- S.Blake 67
58- G.Vasquez 66
58- R.Price 66
58- D.Fisher 66
61- R.Sessions 65
61- S.Gaines 65
61- P.Jeter 65
61- M.Banks 65
65- E.Bledsoe 64
65- L.Hudson 64
67- A.Law 63
67- A.Johnson 63
67- J.Pargo 63
67- J.Lin 63
71- S.Collins 62
71- E.House 62
71- A.Carter 62
74- J.Lucas 61
74- D.Gibson 61
74- P.Beverley 61
74- M.Shakur 61
74- D.Brown 61
74- B.Uzoh 61
74- C.Jerrells 61
74- R.Ivey 61
82- O.Lafayette 60
82- K.Hasbrouck 60
82- I.Smith 60

Tony Parker behind Stephen Curry, Darren Collison and Jennings ?

Jason Kidd behind Jameer Nelson ?

Louis Williams better than Mo Williams ? Really ?

Bibby the 40th PG ?

Anonymous said...

SG:
1- D.Wade 94
2- K.Bryant 91
3- B.Roy 86
4- J.Johnson 83
5- T.Evans 82
5- M.Ginobili 82
7- A.Iguodala 80
7- M.Ellis 80
9- S.Jackson 78
9- V.Carter 78
9- J.Harden 78
12- J.Salmons 77
13- J.Crawford 76
13- K.Martin 76
15- R.Allen 75
15- D.West 75
15- B.Gordon 75
18- N.Robinson 74
18- O.Mayo 74
18- J.Terry 74
18- Jr.Smith 74
18- R.Hamilton 74
23- E.Gordon 72
23- J.Richardson 72
25- R.Bell 71
25- S.Brown 71
25- T.Williams 71
25- D.Jones 71
25- L.Barbosa 71
30- W.Green 70
30- R.Brewer 70
30- M.Thornton 70
30- D.Jones 70
34- M.Miller 69
34- F.Garcia 69
34- K.Azubuike 69
34- J.Redick 69
34- A.Afflalo 69
34- C.Lee 69
34- C.Brewer 69
34- W.Matthews 69
42- A.Morrow 68
42- R.Fernandez 68
42- N.Young 68
45- C.Douglas-Roberts 67
45- A.Parker 67
45- T.Allen 67
45- J.Crawford 67
45- G.Neal 67
45- T.Sefolosha 67
51- M.Redd 66
51- L.Head 66
51- R.Mason 66
51- B.Walker 66
51- B.Rush 66
51- T.White 66
51- E.Williams 66
51- C.Bell 66
59- V.Wafer 65
59- A.Bradley 65
59 X.Henry 65
59- S.Weems 65
59- W.Ellington 65
65- J.Meeks 64
65- M.Bellinelli 64
65- L.Stephenson 64
68- G.Temple 63
68- D.Cook 63
70- W.Warren 62
70- S.Vujacic 62
70- J.Taylor 62
73- M.Carroll 61
73- K.Bogans 61
73- C.Eyenga 61
73- O.Jeffers 61
73- Q.Ross 61
73- C.Karl 61
79- D.Green 60
79- A.Rautins 60
79- M.Janning 60
82- G.Henderson 59
83- D.Stevenson 58

Anonymous said...

SF:
1- L.James 95
2- K.Durant 89
3- C.Anthony 84
4- G.Wallace 83
5- D.Granger 82
6- E.Turner 80
6- P.Pierce 80
8- R.Gay 79
9- C.Maggette 77
9- A.Kirilenko 77
9- C.Butler 77
12- R.Artest 76
13- L.Deng 75
13- W.Chandler 75
13- T.Prince 75
16- J.Childress 74
16- G.Hill 74
18- C.Delfino 73
18- T.Ariza 73
18- S.Marion 73
18- R.Jefferson 73
18- W.Johnson 73
18- J.Howard 73
24- O.Casspi 72
24- D.Gallinari 72
24- M.Barnes 72
24- M.Pietrus 72
24- S.Battier 72
24- N.Batum 72
24- A.Thornton 72
31- T.Outlaw 71
31- D.James 71
31- T.McGrady 71
31- J.Dudley 71
35- J.Graham 70
35- M.Williams 70
35- Q.Pondexter 70
35- Q.Richardson 70
35- A.Daye 70
40- J.Moon 69
40- R.Butler 69
40- R.Gomes 69
40- C.Miles 69
40- R.Balkman 69
40- P.George 69
40- M.Dunleavy 69
40- R.Williams 69
48- K.Korver 68
48- J.Johnson 68
48- M.Daniels 68
48- L.Kleiza 68
48- J.Anderson 68
48- L.Babbitt 68
54- A.Nocioni 67
54- G.Hayward 67
54- D.DeRozan 67
54- C.Budinger 67
54- A.Gee 67
54- M.Webster 67
54- D.Wright 67
61- D.Brown 66
61- D.Hobson 66
61- S.Young 66
61- M.Evans 66
61- D.Greene 66
61- A.Wright 66
61- L.Walton 66
61- L.Hayward 66
61- R.Carney 66
70- P.Stojakovic 65
70- J.Posey 65
72- D.McGuire 64
72- C.Blakely 64
72- D.Butler 64
72- L.Fields 64
72- S.Robinson 64
72- C.Martin 64
78- D.Carroll 63
78- J.Wright 63
80- J.Giddens 62
80 D.Summers 62
82- P.Sy 61
82- J.Jones 61
84- D.Ebanks 60
85- M.Peterson 59
86- J.Kapono 58

Anonymous said...

PF:
1- C.Bosh 86
2- A.Stoudemire 85
2- C.Boozer 85
4- P.Gasol 84
5- K.Garnett 82
5- D.Nowitzki 82
5- K.Love 82
8- D.Lee 81
9- Z.Randolph 80
9- J.Smith 80
11- B.Griffin 79
11- L.Odom 79
13- T.Thomas 78
13- D.West 78
13- P.Millsap 78
13- A.Blatche 78
17- E.Brand 77
17- C.Landry 77
17- L.Scola 77
17- L.Aldridge 77
21- M.Beasley 76
22- A.Jamison 75
22- K.Martin 75
22- T.Splitter 75
25- A.Randolph 74
25- K.Humphries 74
25- A.Harrington 74
25- J.Green 74
29- D.Gooden 73
29- T.Gibson 73
29- U.Haslem 73
29- T.Murphy 73
29 -S.Ibaka 73
34- C.Smith 72
34- J.Thompson 72
34- R.Lewis 72
34- B.Bass 72
34- D.Favors 72
34- A.Johnson 72
40- T. Young 71
40- B.Diaw 71
40- L.Mbah a Moute 71
40- G.Davis 71
40- T.Hansbrough 71
40- J.Jerebko 71
40- E.Davis 71
40- D.White 71
40- E.Udoh 71
49- E.Ilyasova 70
49- C.Villanueva 70
49- J.Hill 70
49- H.Turkoglü 70
53- R.Anderson 69
53- P.Patterson 69
53- H.Warrick 69
53- T.Booker 69
57- L.Powe 68
57- S.Williams 68
57- C.Wilcox 68
57- R.Evans 68
57- J.Jeffries 68
57- A.McDyess 68
57- M.Bonner 68
57- D.Cunningham 68
57- B.Wright 68
57- Y.Jianlian 68
67- A.Tolliver 67
68- D.Arhtur 66
68- J.Howard 66
70- D.Songaila 65
70- C.Brackins 65
70- T.Thomas 65
70- J.McRoberts 65
70- M.Harris 65
70- G.Lawal 65
76- J.Brockman 64
76- L.Harangody 64
76- D.Character 64
76- J.Pendergraph 64
80- A.Johnson 63
81- E.Najera 62
81- J.Powell 62
81- J.Evans 62
81- E.Clark 62
85- T.Gaffney 60
85- S.Randolph 60
87- B.Cook 59
87- P.Ewing Jr 59
87- V.Radmanovic 59
90- D.Jackson 58
91- A.Ajinca 53

Anonymous said...

C:
1- D.Howard 92
2- T.Duncan 87
3- Y.Ming 83
4- A.Horford 81
5- A.Bogut 80
5- G.Oden 80
7- A.Jefferson 79
7- H.Nênê 79
9- S.O'Neal 78
9- E.Okafor 78
9- A.Bynum 78
12- J.Noah 77
12- J.O'Neal 77
12- K.Perkins 77
12- M.Gasol 77
12- B.Lopez 77
12- M.Camby 77
18- M.Okur 76
19- C.Kaman 75
19- D.Cousins 75
19- R.Hibbert 75
22- J.Maxiell 74
22- D.Blair 74
24- M.Speights 73
24- N.Mohammed 73
24- A.Varejao 73
24- S.Dalembert 73
24- M.Gortat 73
24- B.Wallace 73
24- A.Bargnani 73
31- B.Haywood 72
31- R.Lopez 72
31- E.Dampier 71
31- T.Chandler 71
31- C.Andersen 71
36- Z.Ilgauskas 70
36- C.Monroe 70
36- J.Przybilla 70
39- K.Thomas 69
39- J.Hickson 69
39- A.Biedrins 69
42- S.Hawes 68
42- Z.Pachulia 68
42- R.Turiaf 68
42- B.Miller 68
42- C.Hayes 68
42- C.Frye 68
42- N.Krstic 68
42- N.Collison 68
42- N.Pekovic 68
42- J.McGee 68
52- A.Gray 67
52- C.Aldrich 67
54- L.Sanders 66
54- R.Hollins 66
54- J.Anthony 66
54- H.Whiteside 66
54- D.Milicic 66
59- K.Brown 65
59- H.Thabeet 65
59- D.Andersen 65
62- O.Asik 64
62- I.Mahinmi 64
62- J.Foster 64
62- K.Seraphin 64
66- J.Smith 63
66- E.Thomas 63
66- J.Petro 63
66- H.Armstrong 63
70- D.Jordan 62
70- H.Haddadi 62
70- K.Fesenko 62
70- T.Mozgov 62
70- T.Ratliff 62
70- D.Gadzuric 62
76- D.Diop 61
76- S.Erden 61
76- J.Magloire 61
76- D.Pittman 61
76- S.Jones 61
76- S.Alabi 61
76- J.Dorsey 61
76- K.Koufos 61
84- T.Battie 60
84- S.Samuels 60
84- E.Curry 60
84- D.Orton 60
84- D.Jones 60
84- G.Siemsma 60
90- F.Elson 59
91- B.Zoubek 58
92- B.Mullens 57
93- S.Marks 56
94- J.Collins 53

Rashidi said...

How can u rate kobe at 91 only with wade and lebron 3 and 4 ratings higher than him. imo the difference between tis 3 players is only at MOST 2.D howard better than kobe by 1?

Kobe is 32 years old and declining.

PER
LeBron: 31.1 (lead league)
Wade: 28.0 (2nd in league)
Howard: 24.0 (6th in league)
Kobe: 21.9 (13th in league)

TS%
Howard: .630 (2nd in league)
LeBron: .604 (12th in league)
Wade: .562
Kobe: .545 (lowest mark since .544 as rookie)

None of this tells me he should be higher. He was far from the best individual player in the league.

[i]Nah ask any gm in the nba who they will take, all of them will take kobe anytime. kobe's game still there...[/i]

I highly doubt this.


2)Power forward rankings
Boozer and bosh higher than gasol
i dont really see that happening. toronto has no good scorers nor rebounders. tats why the pumped up stats.


This would make sense if Bosh weren't extremely efficient at his scoring. According to Synergy he actually rated higher as a post-up player than Gasol despite not having Kobe Bryant taking attention away from him. He was also a better pick & roller, better isolater, better on offensive rebounds, and better spot-up shooter.

Synergy also showed he was a better defender than Gasol, despite having significantly weaker defensive teammates around him.

Rashidi said...

Like what i said previous, wade james and bosh ratings need to scale down to fit the rest.
Mario Chalmers and Carlos Arroyo: .Come on Man! They arent even starters....


Neither are Fisher or Blake. The average starter is 77 rating so Chalmers and Arroyo are clearly not starters either. Fisher in particular was a terrible offensive player last season.


Allen(75 same as delonte west? no way dude...)

Delonte West is an excellent defender. Ray Allen is not.

Shaq(he needs to be in low 80)how can he be worse than a greg oden?

Oden: The 2nd best rebounder in the league after Dwight Howard, and twice the shot blocker Shaq is.
Shaq: Good scorer but poor defensive player, as can be expected of any 38 year old 300+ pounder.

Dun forgot tis was the team which decimated lebron and his gang...

Which is why they are tied with the Lakers for 2nd highest rating in the game.

5)peja stojakovic.. NO WAY.....

Very specific.

Melo at 84 with durant at 89 is a bit off.

Not when you take into account how abominable Melo is at defense and how good Durant is.

Wall was no 1 in rookie ladder of summer league. how can he be 5 rating worse than a evan turner who screwed up the summer league totally. imo on his way to being a draft bust :(

We're supposed to discount NCAA accomplishments based on... SUMMER LEAGUE? Turner was out of shape, who cares.

Lakers and Heat players
Derrick caracter at 64 too high imo. should be 60 to 61
Walton should be 63
Joel anthony should increase till low 70s and dexter pittman should at least get 64.


These are all nitpicks w/o any rationalizations.

Rashidi said...

Tony Parker behind Stephen Curry, Darren Collison and Jennings ?

Parker had a very poor season, his worst since 2004 (i.e. his pre-all-star level).

Jason Kidd behind Jameer Nelson ?

Kidd can't score. At all.

Louis Williams better than Mo Williams ? Really ?

Both players are crap defenders that can only score. In Mo's case, he is simply a worse defender than Lou, who at least gets steals.

Bibby the 40th PG ?

Bibby was terrible last year, his offensive game evaporated and he only takes threes now, never was a great passer, plus he's a weak defender.

Anonymous said...

I love how people base a player's performance because of summer league games. I've seen players fill up the stat sheet in a summer league game only to be scrubs during the regular season.

Jose said...

Your ratings kick ass as usual, Rashidi. I've gotta a few questions for you, though:

What did your information show you that dropped George Hill's rating to a 68? I believe his passing, defense and rebounding regressed last season, so are those the areas that hurt him?

Why is Darren Collision rated so high? He played extremely well during Paul's absence, but does that marginal sample size equate to him being the 5th (tied) best PG in the NBA?

Is Garnett really the 2nd best Celtic?

Anonymous said...

please include donald sloan on the kings and greg stiemsma waived by the wolves in your next release

Rashidi said...

What did your information show you that dropped George Hill's rating to a 68? I believe his passing, defense and rebounding regressed last season, so are those the areas that hurt him?

I believe Hill rates 72 as a SG, which is usually where he thrives. He isn't a great traditional point guard since he's a shoot first player. And as you stated, his defense was a bit lacking this year.

Why is Darren Collision rated so high? He played extremely well during Paul's absence, but does that marginal sample size equate to him being the 5th (tied) best PG in the NBA?

I dunno if I'd call Collison's sample marginal as he played 2109 minutes and started 37 games.

He averaged 18.8 ppg and 9.1 apg (40 mpg) in those 37 starts so he certainly produced at an all-star level. By comparison, Derrick Rose averaged 20.8 ppg but only 6.0 apg

Is Garnett really the 2nd best Celtic?

Of course. He's still the anchor of the defense and second best scorer on the team. Should be noted he lead the team in PER.

Regular season
19.4 Garnett
19.1 Rondo
18.2 Pierce
15.2 Allen
15.0 Perkins

Playoffs
17.8 Rondo
17.6 Garnett
15.8 Pierce
13.1 Allen
9.5 Perkins

Anonymous said...

Stats dont show u everything. wade and lebron might be better in terms of overall skills if u take in rebounding blocking ... but talking about shooting guards, kobe is in a league of his own. wade should be a small forward trapped in guard body imo. lebron is good tho.

The wizards fan

Anonymous said...

kobe has the most complete offensive skillset in the game and is a better defender than wade. jus that wade slashes better like iverson. pun intended :/

the wizards fan

Anonymous said...

Why is Mike Miller rated so low??...he was one of the top FA

Shelb said...

You guys are forgetting ratings are based on a lot things, none of which is 'Killer Instinct' or 'Basketball IQ'. Kobe might be someone you'd want on your team against LeBron, but in videogame land he suffers slightly because of his age and the miles on him. Quit with the blinding love for someone who's on the downside of his career.

Also, players are rated based on position. Player A as a SG might have a higher rating than Player B at C, but it's all based on position.

Anonymous said...

evan turner at 80? really?

Not a Wiz fan said...

I agree with the Mike Miller comment. The guy was a coveted free agent who has won ROY and SMOY. He is definetly better than JAMES HARDEN whos rated 11 points over him. He was left to be a #2 or #1 option last year, so of course the guy pulled a Hedo. Thing is his efficency didnt suffer. I see absolutely no reason as to why he is rated so low. Enlight me.

Oh and BTW get the facts right!
Jickson will start at PF for the Cavs. Jamison will come off the bench. Those are the words of Byron Scott.

Beasley will start at SF for the 'Wolves. Wes will slide to SG and Corey Brewer will (finally) go to the bench.

Based on Pat's most recent comments he clearly expects LeBron to be the oppening night PG. Moving Miller into the Lineup....This is not for sure, but that is something they did for 2k11 (albeit with wade at the Point)

Wilson Chandler will start at SG ftm and the lineup shifts up...leaving Amar'e at C and Turiaf at the Bench.

Almost all of ur rotations are impossible....some times you fill the log with more than 96 mins between the two Power Positions. It then becomes imposible for them all to play their minutes and you end up with crap like Haslem subbing in at SF.

Shelb said...

Never seen Haslem sub in at the 3...

Anyway... These ratings are based on last year's performances. When proven otherwise Rashidi will change them. You can't get any more accurate than what Rashidi did to get these ratings. Miller had an off year, his rating will rise as his production does, which it surely will.

The rookie ratings are tricky, naturally, as there is nothing but their college performances and hearsay from camp to base them off of. Summer League can be a good example of what they'll become but many bad players perform well and many good players perform poorly. The only thing to really get out of Summer League is a player's range, speed and handles. Joey Dorsey led Summer League in rebounds but he's a borderline guy at best until he shows otherwise, for example.

These ratings are not based on favoritism, guys. It's not like they've been adjusted based on what the creator feels about certain players. It's purely based on how the player plays based on statistics, game footage, etc.

And don't forget a good SG is one rating and a good PG, PF or C is something different. 2K changed the ratings so ratings for each position is different. An 80 is not an 80 is not an 80 anymore. An 80 at PF is fantastic but SG might be above average, etc etc.

Plus, it's still the preseason, let's wait until the season starts before you asks for someone to get their rating upped if they had a bad season this past year.

Rashidi said...

Stats dont show u everything. wade and lebron might be better in terms of overall skills if u take in rebounding blocking ... but talking about shooting guards, kobe is in a league of his own.

What makes him in a league of his own? Wade took over games more often than Kobe did this year. Swap Kobe for Wade and the Lakers still win the championship and the Heat still get easily knocked out in round 1.

Rashidi said...

Why is Mike Miller rated so low??...he was one of the top FA

Miller rates 71 at SF which is a little higher. He wasn't one of the top FA, he signed a deal worth the mid-level (actually a little less IIRC) which is what 71 tiered players are basically worth.

Ultimately I left him at SG because he'll see the majority of his PT there this season since LeBron is going to suck up about 80% of the team's SF minutes (while Wade is the one that will get extra PG mins to get Miller on the court more).

Rashidi said...

He is definetly better than JAMES HARDEN whos rated 11 points over him.

Harden: A good defender
Miller: Not

He was left to be a #2 or #1 option last year, so of course the guy pulled a Hedo.

Huh? That's not true at all. Miller was highly efficient last season BECAUSE he was content being a spot-up guy all season long instead of taking a more dominant offensive role. According to Synergy, he was the 3rd best spotup shooter in the league behind Korver and Stephen Curry, which obviously has a greater amount of value than what is conveyed in overall rating.

Oh and BTW get the facts right!
Jickson will start at PF for the Cavs. Jamison will come off the bench. Those are the words of Byron Scott.


I read that Jamison MIGHT come off the bench (it is hardly set in stone). Hickson and Jamison both started last year while Shaq was out, and and given how weak Cleveland's offense is (as well as a desire to maximize Jamison's trade value), Jamison might NEED to start. Varejao didn't start last year, even when Shaq was hurt, and seems to play well as sixth man (doesn't have to worry about foul trouble as much).

Beasley will start at SF for the 'Wolves. Wes will slide to SG and Corey Brewer will (finally) go to the bench.

I was going to make this change but forgot, it'll be in next update.

Based on Pat's most recent comments he clearly expects LeBron to be the oppening night PG.

That's the first I've heard of it, as rotoworld (the top source of fantasy information) has yet to report anything of the sort. Only way I see that happening is if Chalmers isn't healthy by opening night (which is a possibility).


Wilson Chandler will start at SG ftm and the lineup shifts up...leaving Amar'e at C and Turiaf at the Bench.

1. The reports have been Gallinari @ SG and Randolph @ SF as Knicks go big. This makes sense to me since Randolph has a similar build to Jared Jeffries and D'Antoni likely envisions him filling a similar defensive role, while Randolph is also a far superior rebounder than Chandler or Jeffries (or even Ronny Turiaf, for that matter).

2. One of Amare's conditions of signing was that he would be playing his natural PF, not C.

daca said...

Saw another bug! i was playin my assosiaciation with the Wiz and traded Armstrong for Ben Wallace and suddenly i see that Wallace had an 99 rating at 3pt! maybe it was a bug of the game because i didn't check it outside of the Association. Just wanted to inform you.

Anonymous said...

Just a few things:

Could you explain why Evan Turner is ranked the same as Paul Pierce & 5 over Luol Deng?

Also is Derrick Rose ranked lower than Rondo because of his defense?

Shelb said...

I'd say Derrick Rose is ranked lower than Rondo because Rondo is the superior player.

Rashidi said...

That's a game bug - my brother traded for Shaq and McDyess and they both had 99 3pt.

Rashidi said...

Can anyone tell me the major difference between Tyreke Evans and Evan Turner?

Rashidi said...

After a much needed edit break, I started working on the 96 Bulls.

I downloaded Imperial's roster (the top rated one) but was ultimately disappointed with his ratings.

Example:

Steve Kerr
90 Inside
90 Close
85 Med
95 3pt
85 Layup
90 Speed

Obviously these were extremely basic and will require a great deal of work.

Imperial's Ratings
99 Michael Jordan (SG)
91 Scottie Pippen (SF)
80 Dennis Rodman (PF/SF)
78 Toni Kukoc (SF/PF)
77 Ron Harper (PG/SG)
77 Luc Longley (C)
76 Steve Kerr (PG/SG)
76 John Salley (PF/C)
74 Jud Buechler (SG/SF)
74 Bill Wennington (C)
73 Randy Brown (PG)
72 Jason Caffey (PF)
72 Dickey Simpkins (PF/C)
69 Jack Haley (PF)
59 James Edwards (C/PF)

Obviously just about every single one of these is overrated when I have the average starter at 75-77 and 2K has them at 73-75.

Rashidi said...

More amazing Kerr ratings
85 Shoot Off Dribble
85 Shoot In Traffic

Come on. Am I really the only roster editor that takes this stuff seriously?

Rashidi said...

Rashidi's 96 Bulls
95 - Michael Jordan (SG/SF)
68 - Ron Harper (PG/SG) (72 @ SG)
63 - Steve Kerr (PG) (67 @ SG)
61 - Randy Brown (PG) (63 @ SG)

As usual, the triangle offense doesn't require passing PGs, and that's what PG overall is driven by in 2K (i.e. why those PGs might appear a bit low).

Those are still pretty tenative as I continue to watch 96 Bulls game tape. Hopefully I can finish this team by Wednesday.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell me whether nba 2k11 roster is only until july 14th? can i edit the ratings of players in nba 2k? will the rookies of teams be on the team if they sign after july 14?

Rashidi said...

This takes the cake.

Bill Wennington
74 Overall
70 3pt
85 Layup
75 Shoot Off Dribble
85 Handle
85 Off-Hand
75 Ball Security
70 Pass
65 Block
80 Hands
65 Ball Defense
35 PostOff
85 Speed
90 Quickness
75 Vertical

How Imperial got the highest rated file on 2K Share is beyond me. Who cares if you've got 10 Bulls teams if they play so unrealistically?

Prenti$ said...

How do u have Darren Collison the same rating as Derrick Rose And Tyreke Evans?????

Prentis said...

How dare you!! Lol

Anonymous said...

why is kevin martin ranked lower than harden, salmons, and vince he is clearly better than harden and salmons right now where harden could be better down the line and vince isn't as effective as kevin is and kevin the better scorer of the 2 right now.

Anonymous said...

still trying to figure out how evan turner, a rookie is rated 80?

even if you discount a horrible summer league (sorry but all of the rookies were somewhat rusty after not playing actual games for months so quit using that excuse for him) and only look at college how the hell is he a 80 out the box? As good as Pierce? LMAO.

Rashidi said...

still trying to figure out how evan turner, a rookie is rated 80?

What's Tyreke's rating? Evan averages only 15-16 ppg in association as currently rated. He is an excellent all-around player, not just a scorer. Good rebounder, passer, ball handler, defender... is he supposed to have a bad rating? He's likely just as good as 33 year old Pierce in those areas, if not better.

Rashidi said...

How do u have Darren Collison the same rating as Derrick Rose And Tyreke Evans?????

Check out the numbers Collison put up as a starter. He's the real deal.

Collison
18.8 ppg
3.5 rpg
9.1 apg
40.1 mpg
.485 FG%
.429 3PT%
.852 FT%

Rose and Evans don't even come close in assists. They might be better scorers (with limited range on their jumpers), but in terms of pure PG, Collison is the definition of that.

Rashidi said...

why is kevin martin ranked lower than harden, salmons, and vince

1. Martin did not have a good year.
2. Martin is a below average defensive player.
3. Harden and Salmons are good defensive players. Vince is better at various things (PASSING, for starters) than Martin.

I expect a rebound season from him but it's not exactly a given as Houston is a very uncertain team right now due to the Yao situation.

StreakShooter McFloorburn said...

Nice changes on the 95-96 Bulls ratings, but why the wack Jordan CAP? You have the one that looks most like him on your 80's and 90's east all-star teams, so why not use it? Also, why no Phil Jackson as their coach? I'd rather have your ratings than Imperial's, but it really robs me of the immersion when it's generic bald mustachioed black dude on the court w/Vinny D pacing the sideline. Please don't lump me in with the headband/sleeve crowd, these are major details that very much block the nostalgia that is the goal of creating classic teams.

Anonymous said...

You need to be killed for labelling lebron the betrayer an all time great and putting the Black Mamba at 91. Kobe = 96 lebron = 94. Kobe win championships with Pau Gasol, Lamar O Dumb, Ron artest who dont know triangle, Injured Bynum and old fisher. Lebron chokes with Shaq , Antawn Jamaison and Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson and Anderson Varejao.

Anonymous said...

LEbron got a better team last season and still flopped. Admit it he is a egoistic player who dont even deserve to be in nba first team mainstay. really hope durant will kill him tis season and he will end up like allen iverson haha.

Anonymous said...

I can withness the demise of Lebron james next season when wade dont pass him the ball. No one on his team likes LeCHoke at Cavaliers but the management forced them to pass him the ball. Notice how Mike brown was fired the moment lbj went free agent cos only mike brown let lechoke do wadever he wants. Now that lebron has become a jerk in fans' eyes, NBA association will tell the perosn guarding lebron to not give him free shots or let lbj get past them. LBJ shot percentage will drastically drop now that fans hate him and nba see no use in making him a fan favourite.

Shelb said...

Last three comments are on drugs.

Anonymous said...

Rashidi can u answer why KD isnt 90-94 being the NBA scoring leader and y melo is only 84

Anonymous said...

Also y on the new roster list jennings is only 74 or 75 i forget which and not 79 on this list which is what he deserves

Anonymous said...

Dirk Nowitzki avg about 27pts and 11reb in the playoffs and has over 21,000 career point and is only an 82 BS!!!!!

Anonymous said...

you slept on anthony... ya bum

doclinkin said...

"Can anyone tell me the major difference between Tyreke Evans and Evan Turner?"

Speed, quickness, handle, creativity, and huge hands. (Tyreke)
vs.
Intelligence, ball smarts, defense and team sense -- but relatively small hands (Turner)

Both rebound well for their size. Both can play as a big guard though it's less of a natural fit for Turner. He is unselfish and passes well though.

Turner will have some difficulty trying to pull off his pet spin move, has a tendency to lose the ball when he tries it in traffic.

Scouts will suss that out pretty quick. He projects to struggle to adjust.

By contrast Ty Evans has no particular move pet, he's improvising every time down the court. Less of a team game, he racks assists, when he does, mostly because he has the ball in his hands all the time.

By contrast Turner is the smarter team player, knew how to use the players he had on his squad. Some part of that though was a function of experience and familiarity, he's an upperclassman, not a raw pure talent. The experience and nascent smarts make Turner the better defender. Makes sense since as a freshman he was a defensive specialist role player.

I do think you have him overrated at 5 spots better than John Wall for instance. Those little squirrel paws are gonna cause him some trouble.

Anonymous said...

Wow that is a good point about Dirk being as low as 82 he should be up about 6 or 7

Anonymous said...

wow. a lot of stupid comments here. thank God there were far more intellectual ones. keep up the good work man!

Anonymous said...

ay ay ay, I agree with nearly all of your ratings BUT your justification for a lot of these is incredibly flawed, especially the Collison vs. Rose ratings. Collison put up those numbers in limited time last season... Rose did his for a full season AND is better rounded in nearly every aspect. I don't even like Derrick Rose, in fact, I rather dislike him but come on man...

Rashidi said...

Collison's ratings are based on his entire season, not just his starts.

Rose's name is bigger than his game at the moment. Collison? Vice versa.

Rashidi said...

Also, if a player can't shoot threes or force turnovers, I wouldn't exactly call them "well-rounded"...

(Collison is the more well-rounded player, which is how he can have the same overall rating as a 20 ppg scorer.)

Rashidi said...

Rashidi can u answer why KD isnt 90-94 being the NBA scoring leader and y melo is only 84

There's more to basketball than scoring.

Would you rather have 30/8/3 or 30/7/9?

Rashidi said...

Now ask the same question with 28/7/3 and crap defense.

Anonymous said...

Rose is unquestionably the more well rounded player. Offensively the only area where Collison is better is the long ball. Rose has quite the formidable mid-range game, he gets into the lane with absolute ease (arguably better than anybody in the league), he's a tremendous passer. Defensively Rose is superior if for nothing else his size. Steals are a horrible representation of defense so I really hope your defensive ratings are not partially attributed to statistics such as steals.

Rose > Collison

Rashidi said...

Offensively the only area where Collison is better is the long ball.

Which is pretty darn significant for a point guard.

Rose has quite the formidable mid-range game, he gets into the lane with absolute ease (arguably better than anybody in the league)

Arguable? LeBron James. Dwyane Wade. Don't get too ahead of yourself.

he's a tremendous passer.

But not a better one than Collison.

Defensively Rose is superior if for nothing else his size.

Ever hear the saying "it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it?"

Steals are a horrible representation of defense so I really hope your defensive ratings are not partially attributed to statistics such as steals.

Height/weight are an even worse representation of defense.

And frankly, dismissing the creation of turnovers is foolish when that is the very point of basketball defense. The best way to prevent a shot from going in is to make sure the shot is never taken at all. Players like Rajon Rondo, Ron Artest, or perhaps we should go back to legends like Jordan, Pippen, Stockton... these players didn't gamble for steals, they got them because they were excellent defensive players that read their opponents and forced them to make mistakes. They were not diving after every pass and reaching in like some kid at a rec league. Rose has not shown any ability whatsoever in this area. He is the worst ball thief among all starting PGs. Toss in that he's arguably the worst 3pt shooter among them too (rivaling the likes of Andre Miller and Russell Westbrook), and claims of being a well-rounded player are simply weak.

"Well-rounded" implies ability in all areas and the term simply doesn't apply to a player who is the worst among his peers in two key areas.

Rose spent the summer working on his flaws, and should improve over time, but based on last season, he is rated exactly where he should be.

Despite being a rookie, Collison ws a year older than Rose last season, and his game is more refined and developed (he played 4 years of NCAA after all). Rose is still learning how to play (living mostly off his athletic talents thus far) and obviously has more potential than Collison. But as of the end of last season?

I don't buy into hype machines. All that matters to me is what a player has done NOW.

Anonymous said...

Look into Collison's TO rate in his time as a starter...

Drescola said...

He ain't gonna admit he wrong.. Wall went number 1 because he was the top talented rookie... the next 2 teams were pissed because they wanted him as well.. They were even debating if Favors should go 2nd and Turner 3rd but no matter what we knew who was going 1st... You can tell people what they know or what they watch on TV... if you wrong just say you wrong.. I have to fix things in your roster every year so what's new... Like Javale getting a 59 is right, LOL.. something you do are good, Wall going down but being the number 1 pick AND number one summer league player tells meenough to know he's by far the top rated rookie.. Turner is good but only one player worked out ofr the wiards... and he went Number 1

Ryan said...

Kobe - 91, Melo - 84, Dirk 82

This blog is pretty spot on but arguable at best notwithstanding bias.

We all now Kobe should be higher, barring Kobe haters. He still the same legendary Kobe, and has still showed no signs of slowing down.

Melo is top 3 tier highly skilled offense player, as well as thrasher in the paint. Not a 90 player, but still the tour de force on offense and establishes his team as an automatic playoff contender.

Dirk is always an intriguing case, given his unorthodoxy play but undeniably one of the best shooters in the history of the game, yet still fundamentally sound as a 5.

And to those who think it is a statistics game- if it were, Lebron, Wade, and Bosh would be at a downfall this year rating wise because of their will to win. Its about their impact and efficiency into the lineup as Kobe, Melo, and Dirk are given less to be desired.

Anonymous said...

Most of the ratings look pretty good.. but I feel like some guys are really underrated.
Here are some guys I feel should be rated higher (list includes name, rating, and what i feel rating should be)
A. Iguodala ... 80 ... 83
M. Redd ... 66 ... 73
M. Williams ... 74 ... 78
P. Pierce ... 80 ... 84
R. Allen ... 75 ... 79
A. Jefferson ... 79 ... 83
K. Bryant ... 91 ... 93
P. Gasol ... 84 ... 88
R. Lewis ... 72 ... 78
D. Nowitzki ... 82 ... 87
B. Lopez ... 77 ... 83
C. Anthony ... 84 ... 90
D. Granger ... 82 ... 85
C. Frye ... 68 ... 74
K. Durant ... 89 ... 93
J. Green ... 74 ... 78

All in all ratings were solid, but, you said 70 - 74 was a below average starter and you had lots of guys rated there that i thought should be an average to slightly better than average starter.

Most underrated player in this game is Nowitzki. Everyone has been giving him like 82 or 83... I think he's still one of the best in the league (90 or so caliber).

Anonymous said...

u should just kill urself these ratings r ridiculous, how do u hav a job

Anonymous said...

when do you upload the next update rashidi please ?

Anonymous said...

I don't play 2k11 (or other NBA games) but these look well thought out and reasonable; nice job!

Anonymous said...

Yeah Collison should probably be in the 74-75 range. You can't be a top 5-10 PG in the league if you aren't up there in assists, and Collison is averaging 4 per game. Granted it is early, but he isn't that great of a PG. Average IMO. Average as is there are 15 better than him and 15 worse.

Rashidi said...

Yeah Collison should probably be in the 74-75 range. You can't be a top 5-10 PG in the league if you aren't up there in assists, and Collison is averaging 4 per game. Granted it is early, but he isn't that great of a PG. Average IMO. Average as is there are 15 better than him and 15 worse.

Collison is averaging 5 assists, and does it in only 29 minutes per game. His turnovers are also down, so it's not like he's throwing bad passes now. Pacers are running the ball through Roy Hibbert on offense a lot, as he has a very good assist rate for a center.

Anonymous said...

Rashidi
can you post the detail of player's rating?
cause I play the PC version.
I copy all your data by edit in the games.
But now I just found the part of the team, you posted the final version before.
I feel really great with your ratings, thanks.

Anonymous said...

kobe 91? no way he is at least 95

Anonymous said...

anonymous... i thought about this and i do not think that shaq and jamison ever played on the same team... so to say that lebron choked with shaq, jamison, mo williams, and then proceeding to name everyone else on the team... as if they matter, cause they sure wouldnt on any other team is not a reason as to why you think kobe is better than lebron james.

Anonymous said...

Good day Rashidi.. I just want to get help from you. You see, I'm building a 2010-2011 rosters using Orlando Magic team with the following lineups: Shaq, Dwight, Grant hill, T-mac, and Hardaway. I want them to put on the same line up but I couldn't figure who will be the Center between Shaq - DW and SF for T-mac and GH. I want to use their real stats, tendencies and synergy as if they were still Orlando stars. What I'm doing now is training them in my assoc till they get their previous form. So..I need help on their plays, tendencies and synergy to have a very powerful chemistry.. Thanks in advance. You can mail me the answer master Rashidi at this mail
john_concepcion2003@yahoo.com

Thanks again ^^

Anonymous said...

somebody's ridin the heats dick, jk but no way bosh is an 86 an gasol is an 84 its gasol 88 bosh 85 and kobe is a 93 some others shood be raised too