Thursday, September 23, 2010

NBA 2K11 Player Ratings (Starting Lineups)

2K Sports is being very secretive with their ratings this year, and thus far have only been willing to release the starting lineup overalls to 2khoops.net

Ultimately, this list is extremely disappointing as it seems 2K could only be bothered to edit about 5-10% of the league despite a 3 month gap between the last roster and a significant amount of OBVIOUS work that needed to be done.

Btw, this confirms that the list I compiled from the league website was accurate - sorry naysayers.

Here is their list, and I've added in the difference from where that player was at the end of 2K10.

ATLANTIC DIVISION

BOSTON CELTICS
Rajon Rondo 87 (+1)
Ray Allen 79 (+1)
Paul Pierce 83 (0)
Kevin Garnett 80 (0)
Kendrick Perkins 72 (0)

TORONTO RAPTORS
Jose Calderon 72 (0)
Leandro Barbosa 75 (+1)
Linas Kleiza 55 (N/A) - Oh my god. Please tell me this is a typo.
Amir Johnson 63 (-1)
Andrea Bargnani 74 (0)

NEW YORK KNICKS
Raymond Felton 73 (-1)
Wilson Chandler 74 (0) - Still a SF since he rates 4 points worse as SG.
Danilo Gallinari 72 (+1)
Anthony Randolph 70 (-1)
Amare Stoudemire 86 (-1) - Don't worry, all they did was switch his position to center.

PHILADELPHIA 76ERS
Jrue Holiday 70 (-1)
Evan Turner 76 (N/A)
Andre Iguodala 85 (+1)
Elton Brand 73 (-1)
Spencer Hawes 66 (0)

NEW JERSEY NETS
Devin Harris 78 (-1)
Anthorny Morrow 65 (0)
Travis Outlaw 69 (0)
Troy Murphy 72 (0)
Brook Lopez 81 (+1)

CENTRAL DIVISION

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
Mo Williams 76 (0)
Anthony Parker 70 (+1)
Jamario Moon 65 (-1)
Antawn Jamison 78 (+1)
Anderson Varejao 68 (-1)

MILWAUKEE BUCKS
Brandon Jennings 75 (-1)
John Salmons 74 (0)
Corey Maggette 78 (+1)
L.R Mbah a Moute 71 (+1)
Andrew Bogut 82 (0)

CHICAGO BULLS
Derrick Rose 85 (0)
Ronnie Brewer 69 (-1)
Loul Deng 77 (+1)
Carlos Boozer 85 (0)
Joakim Noah 73 (0)

INDIANA PACERS
Darren Collison 80 (0)
Brandon Rush 65 (0)
Danny Granger 83 (0)
Josh McRoberts 54 (-1)
Roy Hibbert 71 (-1)

DETROIT PISTONS
Rodney Stuckey 74 (0)
Richard Hamilton 77 (+2) - Highlighted because he's the first to go up more than a point.
Tayshaun Prince 76 (0)
Jonas Jerebko 66 (0)
Ben Wallace 74 (0)

SOUTHEAST DIVISION

ORLANDO MAGIC
Jameer Nelson 75 (-1)
Vince Carter 81 (0)
Michael Pietrus 72 (+1)
Rashard Lewis 76 (+1) - Still listed at SF, since he's 2 points lower as PF
Dwight Howard 88 (0)

ATLANTA HAWKS
Mike Bibby 73 (-1)
Joe Johnson 88 (0)
Marvin Williams 66 (0)
Josh Smith 83 (-1)
Al Horford 78 (-2)

MIAMI HEAT
Dwayne Wade 97 (+2) - Still listed at SG (at least we hope), since he rates 1 point worse at PG.
Mike Miller 72 (+1) - Might have been switched to SF, as he rated a point higher there.
Lebron James 97 (+1)
Chris Bosh 87 (0)
Joel Anthony 58 (0)

CHARLOTTE BOBCATS
D.J. Augustin 69 (0)
Stephen Jackson 84 (+1)
Gerald Wallace 84 (+1)
Boris Diaw 70 (0)
Erick Dampier 60 (-1) - Dunno what's worse, that he's rated this low, or that he's still on the team?

WASHINGTON WIZARDS
John Wall 81 (N/A) - Interesting.
Gilbert Arenas 83 (-2) - Don't think his position was switched, since he rated a point higher at SG.
Josh Howard 71 (0)
Andray Blatche 72 (0)
Javale McGee 59 (-1) - This is a guy who played with Team USA, btw.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

NORTHWEST DIVISION

DENVER NUGGETS
Chauncey Billups 83 (-1)
Arron Afflalo 65 (-1)
Carmelo Anthony 93 (+2) - ROFL I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE "GREATNESS"
Kenyon Martin 77 (0)
Nene 75 (0)

UTAH JAZZ
Deron Williams 92 (0)
Raja Bell 70 (-1)
Andrei Kirilenko 74 (-1)
Paul Millsap 74 (0)
Al Jefferson 80 (0)

PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS
Andre Miller 76 (-1)
Brandon Roy 88 (+1)
Nicolas Batum 69 (0)
LaMarcus Aldridge 77 (0)
Greg Odon 75 (0)

OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER
Russel Westbrook 81 (-3) - Should be interesting to see what changed, bet a lot of people complained.
Thabo Sefolosha 66 (0)
Kevin Durant 91 (+3) - Apparently raised from the build "Da Czar" used in his videos (also likely due to complaints)
Jeff Green 77 (0)
Nenad Krstic 59 (-1) - *Eye Roll* Lazy 2K Sports can't even update each player once a year.

MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES
Johnny Flynn 74 (-1)
Corey Brewer 70 (0)
Wesley Johnson 73 (N/A)
Kevin Love 74 (0)
Darko Milicic 57 (-1)

PACIFIC DIVISION

LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Derek Fisher 69 (-2)
Kobe Bryant 97 (+1)
Ron Artest 79 (-1)
Pau Gasol 89 (+1)
Andrew Bynum 77 (0)

PHOENIX SUNS
Steve Nash 85 (0)
Jason Richardson 73 (0)
Hedo Turkoglu 73 (0)
Hakim Warrick 64 (-1)
Robin Lopez 64 (-1)

LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS
Baron Davis 79 (-3) - Similar to Westbrook, likely lowered due to complaints.
Eric Gordon 74 (0)
Rasual Butler 61 (0) - Is this his 4th year being underrated or his 5th? Lost count. Lead the team in minutes, FYI.
Blake Griffin 76 (0)
Chris Kaman 78 (0)

GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS
Stephen Curry 80 (-1)
Monte Ellis 84 (-1)
Dorell Wright 64 (0)
David Lee 83 (+1)
Andris Biedrins 69 (-1)

SACRAMENTO KINGS
Beno Udrih 66 (-2) - Wut?
Tyreke Evans 82 (0)
Omri Casspi 66 (+1)
Carl Landry 75 (0)
Samuel Dalembert 70 (0)

SOUTHWEST DIVISION

DALLAS MAVERICKS
Jason Kidd 83 (-1)
Caron Butler 81 (0) - Still listed at SF, as he's rated 2 points worse at SG.
Shawn Marion 78 (+1)
Dirk Nowitzki 83 (0)
Brendan Haywood 71 (-1)

SAN ANTONIO SPURS
Tony Parker 78 (-2)
George Hill 76 (0) - Still listed at SG, as he rates 3 points worse at PG.
Richard Jefferson 74 (+1)
Tim Duncan 90 (0)
Antonio McDyess 68 (-1) - Might be listed at PF, where he rated 1 point lower.

HOUSTON ROCKETS
Aaron Brooks 80 (0)
Kevin Martin 80 (+1)
Shane Battier 76 (0)
Luis Scola 78 (+1)
Yao Ming 83 (0)

MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES
Michael Conley 73 (-1)
O.J Mayo 80 (0)
Rudy Gay 81 (+1)
Zach Randolph 80 (0)
Marc Gasol 77 (0)

NEW ORLEANS HORNETS
Chris Paul 95 (0)
Marcus Thornton 69 (0)
Trevor Ariza 79 (+1)
David West 75 (0)
Emeka Okafor 77 (-1)

That's the list. A grand total of 10 players had their overall rating change by more than 1 point. It makes me think that all the players who went up or down only 1 point did so because they added a new rating, not because they actually sat down and edited those players (or changed the rating scale for an existing one).

14 comments:

Shelb said...

These are horrid. Kleiza's rating has to be a joke.

Anonymous said...

rashidi i bet you wish they would release one or two players complete attribute page to give u an idea huh

Jbrown1182 said...

I had the same reaction seeing Kleiza's rating. I simply couldn't believe it.

KD and Carmello are both overrated as well, as they're not complete players. Both are essentially just scorers.

I'm not sold on the John Wall rating either.

od361 said...

Dorell Wright-64
Dominic McGuire-63

What?

doclinkin said...

All the centers rank pretty low, I wonder what the deal is with that. I suppose game play is more fun with perimeter ballhandlers dominating the action.

Maybe this is a sop to the no-hand-check rule.

Of the bigs Brook Lopez seems high considering his team flirted with an all-time worst record.

Al Horford seems low given his on-court situational intelligence.

Josh Smith seems a little high at PF. I know he racks stats, but defensively blocks are overrated. He rarely dominates his match-up, tends to play off his man on defense allowing them to get free so he can try for the block. By contrast Horford disallows his man from even getting the shot off by playing close and active and denying the ball.

David Lee seems high. He's another stat padder in the same vein as Antawn Jamison. He racks rebounds, but it never seems to help his team win since his opponent also posts efficiency totals above their average.

Chris said...

you really cant see the "greatness" in Carmelo Anthony? you must not watch basketball. He is arguably the best overall scorer in the entire LEAGUE!! his size and steength make him a mismatch for most opponents and he can score from literally anywhere on the floor. His low post moves are his best asset and he can easily, consistently strike from the perimeter.... if he played lockdown defense he'd be a legit 98 rating.

Rashidi said...

"Arguably" the best doesn't hold much weight when there are better arguments that he's no better than 5th.

Not to mention he is "arguably" the worst defensive player among all "superstars".

jon said...

Danny Granger- 83
Joe Johnson- 88
Stephen Jackson- 84
Gerald Wallace- 84
Monta Ellis- 84
David Lee- 83
AND THEN DIRK NOWITZKI 83???
Is this a fucking joke?
He is a top 10 player in the league, take him off the Mavs and replace him with one of these guys and Dallas is a lottery team. I can believe they really think the guys listed above me are better or equal players. This is insane and just lazy.

Anonymous said...

i agree that dirk i rated far too low. i know he's not a great defender, but i think that any player that can consistently take over games and perform in the clutch should be at least 85, if not more.

Anonymous said...

noah 73
hibbert 71

then

ben wallace and bargnani are 74's.

noah and hibbert are much more valuable to their team considering they have more offensive use then wallace, and much more defensive use then bargnani. i think noah is especially underrated here.

also how does melo improve by 2 when he doesnt play defense, i dont understand the greatness either. you can give him a 99 in all shooting and driving and post moves and whatever else on offense. but he doesnt pass enough to get big assists numbers. he doesnt rebound well enough to get a double double that way consistently and he doesnt play defense

Anonymous said...

I'm a Nets fan so my opinion is a little biased, but I seriously can't understand how Devin Harris is only 78. I mean how can Antawn Jamison (78, a guy who doesn't defend and has been relegated to the bench), Corey Maggette (78, and again doesnt defend),Vince Carter (81, fighting for minutes with J.J Redick) K - Mart (78, and struggling since leaving J. Kidd), Baron Davis (79...just simply fat)and Shane Battier (78 but can only defend and shoot 3's)even be in the same category as Devin. I mean we did suck last year, but this year we will compete for a playoff position. Hopefully this isnt an actual ratings list.

Anonymous said...

Jokim Noah is 83 overall. Pau Gasol is 83 overall.chris bosh is 83 overall. these are like way off

Rashidi said...

These were accurate three months ago. Check the date of the post.

Beard Softener said...

"Arguably" the best doesn't hold much weight when there are better arguments that he's no better than 5th.

Not to mention he is "arguably" the worst defensive player among all "superstars".