Saturday, October 25, 2008

REAL 2K INSIDER Version 2.0 to drop on NBA Opening Night!

With the new roster out I am going to apply all my changes to that since it has all the updated 3pt ratings (rather than going through my roster and changing each players 3pt rating one by one). I don't have much time to edit this weekend, but I'm going to do everything I can to get 2.0 up in time for NBA Opening Night on Wednesday.

Note: I held off on releasing 1.6 when I caught wind of 2K finally releasing a roster update. It is now effectively canceled as I will be focusing solely on version 2.0.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Can't wait. I love what you're doing. Now, I heard you don't like the Blazers at all but hear me out. I think a couple players need changed on the team. First of all Frye's 3 point and mid range need to be boosted a bit, since that's primarily his game. And like I said before, Diogu's close range and OREB I think it was, ratings are atrocious. Mid 90's for both? Are you kidding me? Anyways. Keep on keepin' on.

Sam said...

really appreciate the time you take to do this type of thing...it makes the game 100% better and makes up for the 2k Insider failure

Anonymous said...

Hi, its FFAACC:

If I get it right, 2k changed all the 3pt ratings for all players except 2, and all receive a boost of 2 to 3 points ... If that is so then, that would be against the perception of the majority, that they are too high and translate into a high FG% and too many 3pts.

Even do you have a new job that prevents you from making larger and deeper updates, we would really appreciate that you could make an effort and at least complete 65 to 70% of the players(includding the ones you have already).

I have downloaded Nogsters rosters (and he did a really good job) but I am truely looking foward (kind of desperate really) to have yours completed (even do it wont ever be because it will change constantly), since I know you from previous 2k games and you are the man ... the real 2k insider !!!

Anonymous said...

What % of players will be done?

TryMeFool84 said...

I really like what you're doing with the roster updates, I always did them myself in the past but I really don't have the time these days...

One big suggestion I have which makes a huge difference when it comes to playing in Franchise mode is adjusting the tendencies of players...

The 2 most critical tendencies are the shot tendency and the foul tendency...

I have 2 examples for you....

Dwight Howard averaged 20 points a game last year... if you simulate through a franchise he will end up around 15 points a game... which is reflective of his shot tendency of 66... that should be upped to at least 82...

Alot of players have a high foul tendency, above 50 is trouble where if you simulate a franchise they will not produce the numbers or contribution to their team and they will be upset with their franchise due to lack of major minutes... take a look at Al Jefferson or Amare Stoudamire... If you can adjust that, it would put your rosters over the top... we definitely appreciate what you're doing bro...

Rashidi said...

FFAACC,

The 2-3 pt increase in 3pt rating came between 2k8 and 2k9. 2k has removed the universal boost everyone recieved over the summer in this update.

2.0 will have all the top players completed, I'll get the end of the bench guys later on. The guys that play the games are most important.

Rashidi said...

TryMeFool84,

I caught Howard already and fixed his tendency. Part of the problem is he's sharing the court with Lewis and Turkoglu. Lewis in particular needs a lower shot tendency also.

Amare and Jefferson's fouling has also been fixed.

Pragpro said...

Rashidi, do you publish how you set your game play sliders?

2Ks system for analysis of players is obviously, seriously, flawed. It's like they divide up the teams and the ratings guys B.S. the ratings and inflate the rating of their favorite players. Totally lazy, non-scientific, the results damage the game. It's ridiculous because if the were open source and used the people like Rashidi and the rest of us who actually give a rat's ass, their ratings would be the bomb and they wouldn't have to pay the lazy ingrates they have who don't even seem to keep track of box scores.

They always, always screw up the MPG and the rotations. I'd go so far as to say after the top players at their position, the ratings are pulled straight out of some fan boys ass. This is how EA does the ratings for the thousands of FIFA 09 players. They let the locals who know the players and leagues do research and design the players that they follow daily. It's not perfect, but they do a way better job then 2K. Open Source it. Hell, if they just read this blog and sent Rashidi a check, they'd save a lot of grief.

It's not exactly secret information that they need to update the rotations and determine the ratings. Let the community do it. Rashidi proposes, the community put's in their two cents, the player and team gets refined, problem solved. Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

I started my "determine the problems" association last night, and playing as the Warriors against the Clippers, I was aghast at how bad the Clippers were, I don't know if the chemistry function was working or what, but I blew them out with a team that I didn't think was awesome. The problem was that the computer had Baron take all kinds of bad shots, Camby was non-existent, Kaman played about right, Thornton played well but never got the ball, Rick Davis started at SG and was awful. Two guys came off the bench, Jason Hart who was draining threes for no particularly good reason, and Eric Gordon who played really well.

I couldn't believe Kaman and Camby parting like the red seas as I did Dunk Contest moves straight down the key on the inbounds, over and over. Next up, the Bobcats. I can already tell that all of these rotations and ratings are going to have to be hand edited.

Pragpro said...

FYI
I'm sure you know this. In reality Brandon Wright is looking like a long term project - to maybe a flop, and should be down rated, and left out of the Warriors rotation. Nelson, on the other hand is really very good. Watson and Williams, are terrible. They made Bellinelli into an offensive monster, and he looks like a real monster in the graphics department. I doubt this is truth. Another number that is crucial to get right is the potential rating. The 2K folks have these numbers seemingly randomly assigned, I still don't know how this number directly effects growth. If I don't develop a player and he has a high potential, will he grown on his own?

krome said...

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krome said...

hello

krome said...

sorry had trouble signing on. Hey Rasdidi I really appreciate u man. I read your post yesterday and me and one of my friends downloaded your OUTSIDERS roster. Wow what a big difference from the 2kInsider's.

Rashidi not only did you have guys who were missing for example ( Rockets Von Wafer, Bobcats Andrea Brown and more) but they even looked like themselves and you took the time add the proper acessiores, shoes , pads ect..

The created players the Insider did dont even look like themselves what a freakin joke. What is the guy doing sleeping at his computer.

Rashidi they should hire you and anyone who downloads your "OUTSIDER" roster will be able to see and appreciate the time you put into it.

thanks again Krome...

Anonymous said...

Great job Rashidi,

but here's a dumb question when I go into the 2k insider does it update automatically or do i have to download something

Anonymous said...

when is the 2.0 roster update coming out?

antigravty said...

Love your work Rashidi, and yes I share your pessimsm when it comes to 2k actually backing up their claim of constant manual updates.

I have much more faith in live's automated system, because it doesn't rely on anyone to actually do their job properly!

That said, when is your 2.0 roster being released?? Opening night has almost come and gone.

Crazy Mouse aka Mr. 2K said...

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEW VERSION OF INSIDER FAGGIT. YOU GET PAID ALL THIS MONEY TO PUT UP B.S..YOUR REALLY SAD. JUST GIVE ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE REAL INSIDER BECAUSE UR A SHITHEAD N EVERYONE KN0WS IT. LASTLY, WHAT KIND OF NAME IS RASHIDI. DO YOU WANT TO BE A GIRL OR A BOY. MAKE THE F7K!N NEW VERSION ASAP.