Josh McRoberts is Indiana's starting power forward. That alone is fairly sound logic that he is a decent player and should have a higher rating than, oh, I don't know, Malik Allen, Derrick Caracter, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Eduardo Najera, TAYLOR GRIFFIN (I could go on and on, since McRoberts is ranked 96th among PF by 2K Sports)...
But then, this is 2K Sports. Their logic dictates that Melvin Ely should be in the free agent pool instead of Coby Karl. Two roster updates into the regular season, mind you.
Here's the list of McRoberts' rating boosts from 2K's latest update.
56 Overall (+2)
40 OffAwr (+10)
48 DefAwr (+5)
This is apparently all they could find wrong with him. Isn't that just grand?
McRoberts went 8-23 from 3pt range last season, and was 1-2 last night. 2K saw nothing wrong with his 3pt rating, a paltry 27.
McRoberts grabbed 6 rebounds in only 24 minutes yesterday. He had 18.2 defensive rebounding percentage last year, and is at 19.3 for his career. Yet this is only grounds for a 49 in the world of the 2K Insider, while Dirk and his 20.2 run around with an 86 rating.
Speaking of those 24 minutes, McRoberts only has 70 stamina despite being an athletic 23 year old. But then, with 45 speed and 48 quickness, he isn't exactly athletic.
Clearly, it's McRoberts' basketball IQ that is allowing him to get by - after all, those are the only ratings 2K bothered to upgrade (ones that "coincidentally" have the most significant effect on overall rating). That's why McRoberts (40 Off, 48 Def), a player that earned a starting role in the NBA, is on par with Sean Marks (40/48), a career 3rd stringer that is out of the NBA. TAYLOR GRIFFIN, a player whose career lasted 32 minutes (entirely due to his last name) has superior basketball intellect (41/65) that McRoberts can only dream of achieving. Pops Mensah-Bonsu, a career 10-day contract player who scrounged up 474 minutes across 4 seasons (compared to the 524 McRoberts played LAST season), apparently gained quite a bit of knowledge during his travels (58/49) because he too.
It is certainly not worth noting that McRoberts scored 11 points in his 24 minutes. I would never hold it against Pops that never broke 7 across his 20 games last season. Wait a second. What gives? I have a brain? Really? You don't say!
Here are MY ratings for McRoberts. I'm no genius. Just a guy with common sense and a work ethic strong enough that I can look at more than two ratings at a time and say "HMMM, SOMETHING MIGHT BE WRONG HERE".
Josh McRoberts
Overall 66 (up from 56) (54)
Inside 72 (up from 67)
Close 62 (down from 67)
Medium 62
3PT 72 (up from 27)
LowPost 63
FreeThrow 57 (down from 66)
Layup 52 (up from 37)
Dunk 60 (up from 55)
StandDunk 60
OffDribble 49 (up from 46)
InTraffic 58 (up from 42)
Handle 55 (up from 35)
OffHand 45 (up from 25)
Security 56 (down from 61)
Pass 51
Block 62 (up from 58)
Steal 62 (up from 52)
Hands 69
BallDef 70 (up from 40)
OffReb 71 (up from 58)
DefReb 71 (up from 49)
OffPost 61
DefPost 62 (up from 57)
OffAwr 60 (up from 40) (30)
DefAwr 53 (up from 48) (43)
OffClutch 25
DefClutch 25
Consistency 50 (down from 60)
Stamina 77 (up from 70)
Speed 58 (up from 45)
Quickness 65 (up from 48)
Strength 60
Vertical 63
Hustle 73
Durability 70
Potential 69 (up from 63)
Emotion 60 (up from 25)
McRoberts would rank 50th among PFs in 2K's rosters if he had those ratings, but then, he might actually be worth using. We don't want kids picking the Pacers over the Heat, Lakers, and Celtics now, do we?
Friday, October 29, 2010
Thursday, October 28, 2010
The Real NBA 2K11 - Opening Night
FILE NAME: The Real NBA 2K11 - Opening Night!
SYSTEM: Xbox360
GAMERTAG: Real 2K Insider
This is an in-progress rebuild of my previous roster (re-started because 2K "patched" gameplay features into their previous roster).
Most stars have been fully edited (ratings & tendencies), as well as some entire teams. Off the top of my head the completed teams are the Sixers, Bobcats, Celtics, Heat, Knicks, and Lakers. The players on those teams also have 100% accurate accessories, contracts, and layup/dunk signature edits.
Coach profiles were adjusted across the league.
Rotations and player roles are 100% accurate in conjunction with my previous post.
Ratings are still nowhere near where they were in the previous update where I had 300+ players edited. The next update should be much more comprehensive.
Finally, I do not know the ETA on a PS3 roster file. I sent the data over to my PS3 collaborator and he has the ok to post when the data is implemented. The PS3 file should be ahead of where I'm at as he had more time to edit this week than I did. (I do not know his PSN tag it will be uploaded under, forgot to ask).
Enjoy the rosters. They are far from a finished product, so please bring to my attention anything that needs to be addressed.
SYSTEM: Xbox360
GAMERTAG: Real 2K Insider
This is an in-progress rebuild of my previous roster (re-started because 2K "patched" gameplay features into their previous roster).
Most stars have been fully edited (ratings & tendencies), as well as some entire teams. Off the top of my head the completed teams are the Sixers, Bobcats, Celtics, Heat, Knicks, and Lakers. The players on those teams also have 100% accurate accessories, contracts, and layup/dunk signature edits.
Coach profiles were adjusted across the league.
Rotations and player roles are 100% accurate in conjunction with my previous post.
Ratings are still nowhere near where they were in the previous update where I had 300+ players edited. The next update should be much more comprehensive.
Finally, I do not know the ETA on a PS3 roster file. I sent the data over to my PS3 collaborator and he has the ok to post when the data is implemented. The PS3 file should be ahead of where I'm at as he had more time to edit this week than I did. (I do not know his PSN tag it will be uploaded under, forgot to ask).
Enjoy the rosters. They are far from a finished product, so please bring to my attention anything that needs to be addressed.
NBA 2K11 opening night rotations & player roles
Here are the rotations and player roles that will be found in my roster, "The Real NBA 2K11". The roster will be uploaded shortly for both 360 and PS3.
Rotation information will change rapidly (as in, daily), but player roles should be mostly set in stone, give or take a few starting lineup changes.
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76ERS
STARTERS
C Spencer Hawes (20)
PF Elton Brand (32)
SF Jason Kapono (14)
SG Andre Iguodala (38)
PG Jrue Holliday (32)
BENCH
SG Evan Turner (28)
PG Louis Williams (25)
SF Thaddeus Young (25)
SF Andres Nocioni (16)
C Marreese Speights (10)
PF Darius Songaila (0)
C Tony Battie (0)
RESERVE
PF Craig Brackins (0)
SG Jodie Meeks (0)
STAR: Andre Iguodala
STARTER: Elton Brand, Jrue Holliday, Spencer Hawes, Jason Kapono
SIXTH: Louis Williams
ROLE: Evan Turner, Thaddeus Young, Andres Nocioni
PROSPECT: Marreese Speights
BENCH: Darius Songaila, Craig Brackins, Tony Battie, Jodie Meeks
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BOBCATS
STARTERS
C Nazr Mohammed (20)
PF Boris Diaw (35)
SF Gerald Wallace (41)
SG Stephen Jackson (37)
PG D.J. Augustin (39)
BENCH
PF Tyrus Thomas (30)
PG Shaun Livingston (14)
SF Derrick Brown (12)
SG Gerald Henderson (12)
C DeSagana Diop (0)
SG Matt Carroll (0)
PG Sherron Collins (0)
RESERVE
PF Eduardo Najera ()
C Kwame Brown (INJURED)
SF Dominic McGuire (INJURED)
STAR: Gerald Wallace
STARTER: Stephen Jackson, Boris Diaw, D.J. Augustin, Nazr Mohammed
SIXTH: Tyrus Thomas
ROLE: Shaun Livingston
PROSPECT: Derrick Brown, Gerald Henderson
BENCH: Kwame Brown, DeSagana Diop, Dominic McGuire, Sherron Collins, Matt Carroll, Eduardo Najera
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BUCKS
STARTERS
C Andrew Bogut (36)
PF Drew Gooden (33)
SF Carlos Delfino (29)
SG John Salmons (33)
PG Brandon Jennings (39)
BENCH
SF Corey Maggette (30)
PG Keyon Dooling (19)
PF Ersan Ilyasova (16)
C Larry Sanders (5)
PG Earl Boykins (0)
PF Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (INJURED)
PF Jon Brockman (INJURED)
RESERVE
SG Chris Douglas-Roberts (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
SG Michael Redd (INJURED, ETA MARCH)
SF Darington Hobson (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
STAR: Andrew Bogut
STARTER: John Salmons, Brandon Jennings, Carlos Delfino, Drew Gooden
SIXTH: Corey Maggette
ROLE: Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Ersan Ilyasova, Keyon Dooling
PROSPECT: Larry Sanders, Chris Douglas-Roberts
BENCH: Earl Boykins, Jon Brockman, Michael Redd, Darington Hobson
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BULLS
85 - Carlos Boozer (PF/C)
82 – Derrick Rose (PG)
77 – Joakim Noah (C/PF)
76 – Luol Deng (SF/PF)
73 – Taj Gibson (PF)
69 - Ronnie Brewer (SG/SF)
69 - Kurt Thomas (C)
68 - Kyle Korver (SF/SG)
68 – C.J. Watson (PG)
67 – James Johnson (SF/PF)
63 – Omer Asik (C)
60 – Keith Bogans (SG/SF)
54 - Brian Scalabrine (PF/SF)
STARTERS
C Joakim Noah (39)
PF Taj Gibson (34)
SF Luol Deng (37)
SG Keith Bogans (30)
PG Derrick Rose (38)
BENCH
SF Kyle Korver (21)
SG Ronnie Brewer (15)
PG C.J. Watson (10)
C Kurt Thomas (8)
PF Brian Scalabrine (8)
C Omer Asik (0)
SF James Johnson (0)
RESERVE
PF Carlos Boozer (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR: Derrick Rose, Carlos Boozer
STARTER: Joakim Noah, Luol Deng, Keith Bogans
SIXTH: Taj Gibson
ROLE: Kyle Korver, Ronnie Brewer, C.J. Watson
PROSPECT: James Johnson, Omer Asik
BENCH: Kurt Thomas, Brian Scalabrine
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CAVALIERS
STARTERS
C Anderson Varejao (33)
PF J.J. Hickson (30)
SF Jamario Moon (29)
SG Anthony Parker (30)
PG Mo Williams (33)
BENCH
PF Antawn Jamison (25)
PG Ramon Sessions (15)
SG Daniel Gibson (15)
C Ryan Hollins (15)
SF Jawad Williams (15)
SF Joey Graham (0)
PF Leon Powe (0)
RESERVE
SG Christian Eyenga (0)
SG Manny Harris (0)
C Samardo Samuels (0)
STAR:
STARTER: Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao, J.J Hickson, Jamario Moon, Anthony Parker
SIXTH: Antawn Jamison
ROLE: Ramon Sessions, Daniel Gibson, Ryan Hollins
PROSPECT:
BENCH: Joey Graham, Jawad Williams, Leon Powe, Christian Eyenga, Manny Harris, Samardo Samuels
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CELTICS
STARTERS
C Shaquille O’Neal (20)
PF Kevin Garnett (32)
SF Paul Pierce (37)
SG Ray Allen (37)
PG Rajon Rondo (39)
BENCH
PF Glen Davis (32)
SF Marquis Daniels (16)
C Jermaine O’Neal (16)
PG Nate Robinson (12)
SG Von Wafer (0)
C Semih Erden (0)
PF Luke Harangody (0)
RESERVE
SG Avery Bradley (INJURED)
SG Delonte West (SUSPENDED 10 GAMES)
C Kendrick Perkins (INJURED, ETA FEBRUARY)
STAR: Rajon Rondo, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce
STARTER: Ray Allen, Shaquille O’Neal
SIXTH: Glen Davis
ROLE: Kendrick Perkins, Jermaine O’Neal, Nate Robinson, Delonte West, Marquis Daniels
PROSPECT: Avery Bradley, Semih Erden
BENCH: Von Wafer, Luke Harangody
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CLIPPERS
STARTERS
C Chris Kaman (36)
PF Blake Griffin (38)
SF Ryan Gomes (26)
SG Eric Gordon (36)
PG Baron Davis (33)
BENCH
SF Rasual Butler (26)
PG Randy Foye (22)
PF Craig Smith (14)
C DeAndre Jordan (9)
C Jarron Collins (0)
PG Eric Bledsoe (0)
SF Al-Farouq Aminu (0)
RESERVE
PF Brian Cook (0)
SG Willie Warren (0)
STAR: Blake Griffin
STARTER: Baron Davis, Chris Kaman, Eric Gordon, Ryan Gomes
SIXTH: Rasual Butler
ROLE: Randy Foye, Craig Smith
PROSPECT: DeAndre Jordan, Al-Farouq Aminu, Eric Bledsoe
BENCH: Willie Warren, Brian Cook, Jarron Collins
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GRIZZLIES
STARTERS
C Zach Randolph (35)
PF Darrell Arthur (30)
SF Rudy Gay (35)
SG O.J. Mayo (35)
PG Michael Conley (36)
BENCH
SF Sam Young (18)
C Hasheem Thabeet (18)
SG Tony Allen (15)
PG Acie Law (12)
SG Xavier Henry (6)
SF DeMarre Carroll (0)
C Hamed Haddadi (0)
RESERVE
PG Greivis Vasquez (INJURED)
C Marc Gasol (INJURED)
STAR: Rudy Gay
STARTER: Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol, O.J. Mayo, Michael Conley
SIXTH: Tony Allen
ROLE: Sam Young, Darrell Arthur
PROSPECT: Hasheem Thabeet, Xavier Henry
BENCH: Acie Law, DeMarre Carroll, Greivis Vasquez, Hamed Haddadi
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HAWKS
STARTERS
C Al Horford (36)
PF Josh Smith (35)
SF Marvin Williams (31)
SG Joe Johnson (36)
PG Mike Bibby (27)
BENCH
SG Jamal Crawford (25)
C Zaza Pachulia (20)
PG Jeff Teague (16)
SF Maurice Evans (14)
PF Josh Powell (0)
SG Jordan Crawford (0)
C Jason Collins (0)
RESERVE
C Etan Thomas (0)
SF Pape Sy (0)
STAR: Joe Johnson
STARTER: Josh Smith, Al Horford, Marvin Williams, Mike Bibby
SIXTH: Jamal Crawford
ROLE: Zaza Pachulia, Jeff Teague, Maurice Evans
PROSPECT: Jordan Crawford
BENCH: Josh Powell, Etan Thomas, Pape Sy, Jason Collins
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HEAT
STARTERS
C Joel Anthony (18)
PF Chris Bosh (37)
SF LeBron James (39)
SG Dwyane Wade (36)
PG Carlos Arroyo (28)
BENCH
PF Udonis Haslem (24)
SF James Jones (24)
PG Eddie House (24)
C Zydrunas Ilgauskas (10)
PF Juwan Howard (0)
SG Jerry Stackhouse (0)
C Jamaal Magloire (0)
RESERVE
C Dexter Pittman (0)
PG Mario Chalmers (INJURED)
SG Mike Miller (INJURED, ETA JANUARY)
STAR: LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh
STARTER: Carlos Arroyo, Joel Anthony
SIXTH: Mike Miller
ROLE: Udonis Haslem, Zydrunas Ilgauskas
PROSPECT: Mario Chalmers
BENCH: Eddie House, James Jones, Juwan Howard, Jamaal Magloire, Dexter Pittman
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HORNETS
STARTERS
C Emeka Okafor (30)
PF David West (36)
SF Trevor Ariza (38)
SG Marco Belinelli (30)
PG Chris Paul (37)
BENCH
SG Marcus Thornton (16)
SG Willie Green (12)
PG Jerryd Bayless (12)
PF Jason Smith (12)
SF Peja Stojakovic (10)
C D.J. Mbenga (7)
PF Pops Mensah-Bonsu (0)
RESERVE
SF Quincy Pondexter (0)
C Aaron Gray (0)
SF Joe Alexander (0)
STAR: Chris Paul
STARTER: Emeka Okafor, David West, Trevor Ariza, Marco Belinelli
SIXTH: Marcus Thornton
ROLE: Willie Green, Jerryd Bayless, Peja Stojakovic
PROSPECT: Jason Smith, Quincy Pondexter
BENCH: Aaron Gray, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Joe Alexander
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JAZZ
STARTERS
C Al Jefferson (34)
PF Paul Millsap (33)
SF Andrei Kirilenko (30)
SG Raja Bell (29)
PG Deron Williams (38)
BENCH
SF C.J. Miles (265)
SF Gordon Hayward (19)
C Kyrylo Fesenko (14)
PG Earl Watson (10)
PF Jeremy Evans (8)
PG Ronnie Price (0)
C Francisco Elson (0)
RESERVE
C Mehmet Okur (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR: Deron Williams
STARTER: Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, Andrei Kirilenko, Raja Bell
SIXTH: Mehmet Okur
ROLE: C.J. Miles, Earl Watson
PROSPECT: Gordon Hayward, Kyrylo Fesenko
BENCH: Ronnie Price, Jeremy Evans, Francisco Elson
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KINGS
STARTERS
C DeMarcus Cousins (28)
PF Carl Landry (37)
SF Donte Greene (27)
SG Tyreke Evans (39)
PG Beno Udrih (34)
BENCH
SF Omri Casspi (21)
SG Francisco Garcia (20)
PF Justin Thompson (19)
PF Darnell Jackson (10)
SG Luther Head (5)
PG Eugene Jeter (0)
C Hassan Whiteside (0)
RESERVE
SG Antoine Wright (0)
C Samuel Dalembert (INJURED)
STAR: Tyreke Evans
STARTER: Carl Landry, DeMarcus Cousins, Beno Udrih, Donte Greene
SIXTH: Omri Casspi
ROLE: Samuel Dalembert, Jason Thompson, Francisco Garcia
PROSPECT: Hassan Whiteside
BENCH: Antoine Wright, Luther Head, Eugene Jeter, Darnell Jackson
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KNICKS
STARTERS
C Timofey Mozgov (18)
PF Amare Stoudemire (36)
SF Danilo Gallinari (33)
SG Landry Fields (24)
PG Raymond Felton (37)
BENCH
PF Wilson Chandler (32)
PG Toney Douglas (24)
C Ronny Turiaf (20)
SF Bill Walker (10)
SG Roger Mason (6)
SG Andy Rautins (0)
SF Shawne Williams (0)
RESERVE
PF Anthony Randolph (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
C Eddy Curry (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
SG Kelenna Azubuike (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR: Amare Stoudemire
STARTER: Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Landry Fields, Timofey Mozgov
SIXTH: Wilson Chandler
ROLE: Toney Douglas, Ronny Turiaf, Kelenna Azubuike
PROSPECT: Anthony Randolph, Bill Walker
BENCH: Roger Mason, Andy Rautins, Eddy Curry, Shawne Williams
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LAKERS
STARTERS
C Pau Gasol (37)
PF Lamar Odom (35)
SF Ron Artest (31)
SG Kobe Bryant (37)
PG Derek Fisher (23)
BENCH
PG Steve Blake (22)
SG Shannon Brown (21)
SF Matt Barnes (17)
C Theo Ratliff (17)
PF Derrick Caracter (0)
SG Sasha Vujacic (0)
SF Devin Ebanks (0)
RESERVE
SF Luke Walton (0)
C Andrew Bynum (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol
STARTER: Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, Derek Fisher
SIXTH: Lamar Odom
ROLE: Matt Barnes, Shannon Brown, Steve Blake
PROSPECT:
BENCH: Luke Walton, Theo Ratliff, Sasha Vujacic, Devin Ebanks, Derrick Caracter
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MAGIC
STARTERS
C Dwight Howard (34)
PF Rashard Lewis (34)
SF Quentin Richardson (26)
SG Vince Carter (30)
PG Jameer Nelson (32)
BENCH
SF Mickael Pietrus (22)
SG J.J. Redick (18)
PG Chris Duhon (16)
C Marcin Gortat (14)
PF Ryan Anderson (7)
PF Brandon Bass (7)
PG Jason Williams (0)
RESERVE
PF Malik Allen (0)
C Daniel Orton (INJURED)
STAR: Dwight Howard
STARTER: Vince Carter, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis, Quentin Richardson
SIXTH: Mickael Pietrus
ROLE: J.J. Redick, Marcin Gortat, Chris Duhon
PROSPECT: Ryan Anderson, Brandon Bass
BENCH: Jason Williams, Daniel Orton, Malik Allen
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MAVERICKS
STARTERS
C Tyson Chandler (24)
PF Dirk Nowitzki (36)
SF Caron Butler (34)
SG Jason Terry (34)
PG Jason Kidd (32)
BENCH
SF Shawn Marion (26)
C Brendan Haywood (24)
PG J.J. Barea (20)
SG Dominique Jones (10)
C Ian Mahinmi (0)
PF Brian Cardinal (0)
SG DeShawn Stevenson (0)
RESERVE
PF Steve Novak (0)
C Alexis Ajinca (0)
SG Rodrigue Beaubois (INJURED)
STAR: Dirk Nowitzki
STARTER: Jason Kidd, Caron Butler, Jason Terry, Tyson Chandler
SIXTH: Shawn Marion
ROLE: Brendan Haywood, J.J. Barea
PROSPECT: Dominique Jones, Rodrigue Beaubois
BENCH: Ian Mahinmi, DeShawn Stevenson, Alexis Ajinca
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NETS
STARTERS
C Brook Lopez (37)
PF Joe Smith (6)
SF Travis Outlaw (32)
SG Anthony Morrow (32)
PG Devin Harris (34)
BENCH
SG Terrence Williams (32)
PG Jordan Farmar (20)
PF Derrick Favors (20)
PF Kris Humphries (18)
C Johan Petro (9)
SG Stephen Graham (0)
SF Damion James (0)
RESERVE
SG Quinton Ross (0)
PG Ben Uzoh (0)
PF Troy Murphy (INJURED)
STAR: Brook Lopez
STARTER: Devin Harris, Troy Murphy, Travis Outlaw, Anthony Morrow
SIXTH: Terence Williams
ROLE: Kris Humphries, Jordan Farmar, Johan Petro
PROSPECT: Derrick Favors, Damion James
BENCH: Joe Smith, Ben Uzoh
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NUGGETS
STARTERS
C Nene (33)
PF Shelden Williams (28)
SF Carmelo Anthony (36)
SG Arron Afflalo (33)
PG Chauncey Billups (33)
BENCH
PF Al Harrington (24)
SG J.R. Smith (23)
PG Ty Lawson (20)
C Melvin Ely (10)
SF Gary Forbes (0)
SF Renaldo Balkman (0)
PG Anthony Carter (0)
RESERVE
C Chris Andersen (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
PF Kenyon Martin (INJURED, ETA JANUARY)
STARTER: Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Nene, Kenyon Martin, Arron Afflalo
SIXTH: Al Harrington
ROLE: J.R. Smith, Ty Lawson, Chris Andersen, Shelden Williams
PROSPECT:
BENCH: Anthony Carter, Renaldo Balkman, Melvin Ely, Gary Forbes
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PACERS
STARTERS
C Roy Hibbert (33)
PF Josh McRoberts (24)
SF Danny Granger (37)
SG Mike Dunleavy (32)
PG Darren Collison (35)
BENCH
PF James Posey (24)
SF Paul George (23)
PG T.J. Ford (17)
C Solomon Jones (15)
C Jeff Foster (0)
PF Tyler Hansbrough (0)
SG Dahntay Jones (0)
RESERVE
PG A.J. Price (0)
SG Lance Stephenson (0)
SG Brandon Rush (SUSPENDED 5 GAMES)
STAR: Danny Granger
STARTER: Darren Collison, Roy Hibbert, Josh McRoberts, Mike Dunleavy
SIXTH: James Posey
ROLE: T.J. Ford, Brandon Rush
PROSPECT: Paul George, Tyler Hansbrough, A.J. Price
BENCH: Dahntay Jones, Jeff Foster, Solomon Jones, Lance Stephenson
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PISTONS
STARTERS
C Ben Wallace (28)
PF Austin Daye (21)
SF Tayshaun Prince (31)
SG Richard Hamilton (32)
PG Rodney Stuckey (30)
BENCH
SG Ben Gordon (24)
PF Charlie Villanueva (23)
C Jason Maxiell (20)
PG Will Bynum (18)
SF Tracy McGrady (13)
C Greg Monroe (0)
SF DaJuan Summers (0)
RESERVE
PF Chris Wilcox (0)
SG Terrico White (INJURED)
PF Jonas Jerebko (INJURED, ETA MARCH)
STAR:
STARTER: Tayshaun Prince, Rodney Stuckey, Richard Hamilton, Ben Wallace, Austin Daye
SIXTH: Ben Gordon
ROLE: Charlie Villanueva, Will Bynum, Jason Maxiell, Tracy McGrady
PROSPECT: Greg Monroe, Jonas Jerebko
BENCH: Chris Wilcox, DaJuan Summers, Terrico White
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RAPTORS
STARTERS
C Andrea Bargnani (35)
PF Reggie Evans (29)
SF Linas Kleiza (28)
SG DeMar DeRozan (26)
PG Jarrett Jack (28)
BENCH
SG Leandro Barbosa (24)
PF Amir Johnson (22)
PG Jose Calderon (18)
SF Sonny Weems (18)
C David Andersen (12)
SF Julian Wright (0)
C Solomon Alabi (0)
RESERVE
PG Marcus Banks (0)
C Joey Dorsey (0)
PF Ed Davis (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
STAR: Andrea Bargnani
STARTER: Jarrett Jack, Linas Kleiza, Reggie Evans, Demar DeRozan
SIXTH: Leandro Barbosa
ROLE: Jose Calderon, Amir Johnson, Sonny Weems, David Andersen
PROSPECT: Ed Davis
BENCH: Julian Wright, Solomon Alabi, Marcus Banks, Joey Dorsey
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ROCKETS
STARTERS
C Yao Ming (24)
PF Luis Scola (33)
SF Shane Battier (29)
SG Kevin Martin (32)
PG Aaron Brooks (39)
BENCH
C Brad Miller (24)
SF Chase Budinger (21)
SG Courtney Lee (15)
C Chuck Hayes (15)
PG Ishmael Smith (8)
PF Jared Jeffries (0)
PF Jordan Hill (0)
RESERVE
PF Patrick Patterson (0)
SG Jermaine Taylor (0)
PG Kyle Lowry (INJURED)
STAR: Yao Ming
STARTER: Aaron Brooks, Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Shane Battier
SIXTH: Kyle Lowry
ROLE: Courtney Lee, Chuck Hayes, Brad Miller, Chase Budinger
PROSPECT: Jordan Hill, Patrick Patterson
BENCH: Jared Jeffries, Jermaine Taylor, Ishmael Smith
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SPURS
STARTERS
C Tim Duncan (33)
PF DeJuan Blair (20)
SF Richard Jefferson (31)
SG Manu Ginobili (32)
PG Tony Parker (38)
BENCH
PG George Hill (29)
SF James Anderson (19)
PF Antonio McDyess (19)
PF Matt Bonner (19)
SF Bobby Simmons (0)
SG Gary Neal (0)
PG Garrett Temple (0)
RESERVE
SF Alonzo Gee (0)
PF Tiago Splitter (INJURED)
STAR: Tim Duncan
STARTER: Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson, DeJuan Blair
SIXTH: George Hill
ROLE: Antonio McDyess, Matt Bonner
PROSPECT: James Anderson, Tiago Splitter
BENCH: Gary Neal, Bobby Simmons, Alonzo Gee, Garrett Temple
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SUNS
STARTERS
C Robin Lopez (25)
PF Hedo Turkoglu (27)
SF Grant Hill (26)
SG Jason Richardson (35)
PG Steve Nash (34)
BENCH
C Channing Frye (25)
SF Josh Childress (18)
SF Jared Dudley (18)
PF Hakim Warrick (18)
PG Goran Dragic (14)
PF Earl Clark (0)
C Garret Siler (0)
RESERVE
PF Gani Lawal (0)
SG Matt Janning (0)
STAR: Steve Nash
STARTER: Jason Richardson, Grant Hill, Hedo Turkoglu, Robin Lopez
SIXTH: Channing Frye
ROLE: Josh Childress, Jared Dudley, Hakim Warrick, Goran Dragic
PROSPECT:
BENCH: Earl Clark, Gani Lawal, Matt Janning, Garret Siler
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THUNDER
STARTERS
C Nenad Krstic (16)
PF Jeff Green (40)
SF Kevin Durant (41)
SG Thabo Sefolosha (25)
PG Russell Westbrook (35)
BENCH
PF Serge Ibaka (32)
SG James Harden (25)
PG Eric Maynor (13)
SG Daequan Cook (13)
C Cole Aldrich (0)
PF D.J. White (0)
PG Royal Ivey (0)
RESERVE
SF Morris Peterson (0)
C Byron Mullens (0)
C Nick Collison (INJURED)
STAR: Kevin Durant
STARTER: Russell Westbrook, Jeff Green, Thabo Sefolosha, Nenad Krstic
SIXTH: James Harden
ROLE: Serge Ibaka, Nick Collison, Eric Maynor
PROSPECT: Cole Aldrich, Daequan Cook
BENCH: Royal Ivey, D.J. White, Morris Peterson, Byron Mullens
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TIMBERWOLVES
STARTERS
C Darko Milicic (24)
PF Kevin Love (34)
SF Michael Beasley (34)
SG Wayne Ellington (22)
PG Luke Ridnour (32)
BENCH
SF Wesley Johnson (22)
C Nikola Pekovic (20)
SG Corey Brewer (18)
PF Anthony Tolliver (18)
PG Sebastian Telfair (16)
C Kosta Koufos (0)
SF Lazar Hayward (0)
RESERVE
SG Maurice Ager (0)
PG Jonny Flynn (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
SF Martell Webster (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR:
STARTER: Kevin Love, Michael Beasley, Luke Ridnour, Darko Milicic, Wayne Ellington
SIXTH: Wesley Johnson
ROLE: Jonny Flynn, Corey Brewer, Martell Webster, Nikola Pekovic
PROSPECT: Lazar Hayward
BENCH: Sebastian Telfair, Anthony Tolliver, Kosta Koufos
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TRAILBLAZERS
STARTERS
C Marcus Camby (33)
PF LaMarcus Aldridge (38)
SF Nicolas Batum (30)
SG Brandon Roy (40)
PG Andre Miller (32)
BENCH
SF Wesley Matthews (25)
SG Rudy Fernandez (18)
PF Dante Cunningham (15)
PG Armon Johnson (5)
C Fabricio Oberto (5)
SF Luke Babbitt (0)
PG Patrick Mills (0)
RESERVE
SG Elliot Williams (0)
C Greg Oden (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
C Joel Przybilla (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
STAR: Brandon Roy
STARTER: Marcus Camby, LaMarcus Aldridge, Andre Miller, Nicolas Batum
SIXTH: Wesley Matthews
ROLE: Rudy Fernandez, Dante Cunningham
PROSPECT: Greg Oden, Armon Johnson, Luke Babbitt, Elliot Williams
BENCH: Joel Przybilla, Fabricio Oberto, Patrick Mills
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WARRIORS
STARTERS
C Andris Biedrins (30)
PF David Lee (40)
SF Dorell Wright (36)
SG Monta Ellis (40)
PG Stephen Curry (39)
BENCH
SF Reggie Williams (18)
SF Rodney Carney (18)
PF Brandan Wright (12)
PF Vladimir Radmanovic (7)
SG Charlie Bell (0)
C Dan Gadzuric (0)
PF Jeff Adrien (0)
RESERVE
PG Jeremy Lin (0)
PF Louis Amundson (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
C Ekpe Udoh (INJURED, ETA JANUARY)
STAR:
STARTER: David Lee, Monta Ellis, Stephen Curry, Andris Biedrins, Dorell Wright
SIXTH: Reggie Williams
ROLE: Louis Amundson, Rodney Carney
PROSPECT: Brandan Wright, Ekpe Udoh
BENCH: Charlie Bell, Vladimir Radmanovic, Dan Gadzuric, Jeremy Lin
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WIZARDS
STARTERS
C JaVale McGee (28)
PF Andray Blatche (34)
SF Al Thornton (32)
SG Kirk Hinrich (34)
PG John Wall (38)
BENCH
SG Nick Young (26)
PF Yi Jianlian (20)
PF Trevor Booker (14)
SF Cartier Martin (14)
C Hilton Armstrong (0)
PG Lester Hudson (0)
C Kevin Seraphin (0)
INACTIVE
C Hamady N’Diaye (0)
SF Josh Howard (INJURED)
SG Gilbert Arenas (INJURED)
STAR: John Wall
STARTER: Gilbert Arenas, Andray Blatche, Josh Howard, JaVale McGee
SIXTH: Kirk Hinrich
ROLE: Al Thornton, Nick Young, Yi Jianlian
PROSPECT: Trevor Booker, Kevin Seraphin
BENCH: Cartier Martin, Hilton Armstrong, Lester Hudson, Hamady N’Diaye
Rotation information will change rapidly (as in, daily), but player roles should be mostly set in stone, give or take a few starting lineup changes.
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76ERS
STARTERS
C Spencer Hawes (20)
PF Elton Brand (32)
SF Jason Kapono (14)
SG Andre Iguodala (38)
PG Jrue Holliday (32)
BENCH
SG Evan Turner (28)
PG Louis Williams (25)
SF Thaddeus Young (25)
SF Andres Nocioni (16)
C Marreese Speights (10)
PF Darius Songaila (0)
C Tony Battie (0)
RESERVE
PF Craig Brackins (0)
SG Jodie Meeks (0)
STAR: Andre Iguodala
STARTER: Elton Brand, Jrue Holliday, Spencer Hawes, Jason Kapono
SIXTH: Louis Williams
ROLE: Evan Turner, Thaddeus Young, Andres Nocioni
PROSPECT: Marreese Speights
BENCH: Darius Songaila, Craig Brackins, Tony Battie, Jodie Meeks
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BOBCATS
STARTERS
C Nazr Mohammed (20)
PF Boris Diaw (35)
SF Gerald Wallace (41)
SG Stephen Jackson (37)
PG D.J. Augustin (39)
BENCH
PF Tyrus Thomas (30)
PG Shaun Livingston (14)
SF Derrick Brown (12)
SG Gerald Henderson (12)
C DeSagana Diop (0)
SG Matt Carroll (0)
PG Sherron Collins (0)
RESERVE
PF Eduardo Najera ()
C Kwame Brown (INJURED)
SF Dominic McGuire (INJURED)
STAR: Gerald Wallace
STARTER: Stephen Jackson, Boris Diaw, D.J. Augustin, Nazr Mohammed
SIXTH: Tyrus Thomas
ROLE: Shaun Livingston
PROSPECT: Derrick Brown, Gerald Henderson
BENCH: Kwame Brown, DeSagana Diop, Dominic McGuire, Sherron Collins, Matt Carroll, Eduardo Najera
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BUCKS
STARTERS
C Andrew Bogut (36)
PF Drew Gooden (33)
SF Carlos Delfino (29)
SG John Salmons (33)
PG Brandon Jennings (39)
BENCH
SF Corey Maggette (30)
PG Keyon Dooling (19)
PF Ersan Ilyasova (16)
C Larry Sanders (5)
PG Earl Boykins (0)
PF Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (INJURED)
PF Jon Brockman (INJURED)
RESERVE
SG Chris Douglas-Roberts (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
SG Michael Redd (INJURED, ETA MARCH)
SF Darington Hobson (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
STAR: Andrew Bogut
STARTER: John Salmons, Brandon Jennings, Carlos Delfino, Drew Gooden
SIXTH: Corey Maggette
ROLE: Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Ersan Ilyasova, Keyon Dooling
PROSPECT: Larry Sanders, Chris Douglas-Roberts
BENCH: Earl Boykins, Jon Brockman, Michael Redd, Darington Hobson
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BULLS
85 - Carlos Boozer (PF/C)
82 – Derrick Rose (PG)
77 – Joakim Noah (C/PF)
76 – Luol Deng (SF/PF)
73 – Taj Gibson (PF)
69 - Ronnie Brewer (SG/SF)
69 - Kurt Thomas (C)
68 - Kyle Korver (SF/SG)
68 – C.J. Watson (PG)
67 – James Johnson (SF/PF)
63 – Omer Asik (C)
60 – Keith Bogans (SG/SF)
54 - Brian Scalabrine (PF/SF)
STARTERS
C Joakim Noah (39)
PF Taj Gibson (34)
SF Luol Deng (37)
SG Keith Bogans (30)
PG Derrick Rose (38)
BENCH
SF Kyle Korver (21)
SG Ronnie Brewer (15)
PG C.J. Watson (10)
C Kurt Thomas (8)
PF Brian Scalabrine (8)
C Omer Asik (0)
SF James Johnson (0)
RESERVE
PF Carlos Boozer (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR: Derrick Rose, Carlos Boozer
STARTER: Joakim Noah, Luol Deng, Keith Bogans
SIXTH: Taj Gibson
ROLE: Kyle Korver, Ronnie Brewer, C.J. Watson
PROSPECT: James Johnson, Omer Asik
BENCH: Kurt Thomas, Brian Scalabrine
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CAVALIERS
STARTERS
C Anderson Varejao (33)
PF J.J. Hickson (30)
SF Jamario Moon (29)
SG Anthony Parker (30)
PG Mo Williams (33)
BENCH
PF Antawn Jamison (25)
PG Ramon Sessions (15)
SG Daniel Gibson (15)
C Ryan Hollins (15)
SF Jawad Williams (15)
SF Joey Graham (0)
PF Leon Powe (0)
RESERVE
SG Christian Eyenga (0)
SG Manny Harris (0)
C Samardo Samuels (0)
STAR:
STARTER: Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao, J.J Hickson, Jamario Moon, Anthony Parker
SIXTH: Antawn Jamison
ROLE: Ramon Sessions, Daniel Gibson, Ryan Hollins
PROSPECT:
BENCH: Joey Graham, Jawad Williams, Leon Powe, Christian Eyenga, Manny Harris, Samardo Samuels
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CELTICS
STARTERS
C Shaquille O’Neal (20)
PF Kevin Garnett (32)
SF Paul Pierce (37)
SG Ray Allen (37)
PG Rajon Rondo (39)
BENCH
PF Glen Davis (32)
SF Marquis Daniels (16)
C Jermaine O’Neal (16)
PG Nate Robinson (12)
SG Von Wafer (0)
C Semih Erden (0)
PF Luke Harangody (0)
RESERVE
SG Avery Bradley (INJURED)
SG Delonte West (SUSPENDED 10 GAMES)
C Kendrick Perkins (INJURED, ETA FEBRUARY)
STAR: Rajon Rondo, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce
STARTER: Ray Allen, Shaquille O’Neal
SIXTH: Glen Davis
ROLE: Kendrick Perkins, Jermaine O’Neal, Nate Robinson, Delonte West, Marquis Daniels
PROSPECT: Avery Bradley, Semih Erden
BENCH: Von Wafer, Luke Harangody
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CLIPPERS
STARTERS
C Chris Kaman (36)
PF Blake Griffin (38)
SF Ryan Gomes (26)
SG Eric Gordon (36)
PG Baron Davis (33)
BENCH
SF Rasual Butler (26)
PG Randy Foye (22)
PF Craig Smith (14)
C DeAndre Jordan (9)
C Jarron Collins (0)
PG Eric Bledsoe (0)
SF Al-Farouq Aminu (0)
RESERVE
PF Brian Cook (0)
SG Willie Warren (0)
STAR: Blake Griffin
STARTER: Baron Davis, Chris Kaman, Eric Gordon, Ryan Gomes
SIXTH: Rasual Butler
ROLE: Randy Foye, Craig Smith
PROSPECT: DeAndre Jordan, Al-Farouq Aminu, Eric Bledsoe
BENCH: Willie Warren, Brian Cook, Jarron Collins
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GRIZZLIES
STARTERS
C Zach Randolph (35)
PF Darrell Arthur (30)
SF Rudy Gay (35)
SG O.J. Mayo (35)
PG Michael Conley (36)
BENCH
SF Sam Young (18)
C Hasheem Thabeet (18)
SG Tony Allen (15)
PG Acie Law (12)
SG Xavier Henry (6)
SF DeMarre Carroll (0)
C Hamed Haddadi (0)
RESERVE
PG Greivis Vasquez (INJURED)
C Marc Gasol (INJURED)
STAR: Rudy Gay
STARTER: Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol, O.J. Mayo, Michael Conley
SIXTH: Tony Allen
ROLE: Sam Young, Darrell Arthur
PROSPECT: Hasheem Thabeet, Xavier Henry
BENCH: Acie Law, DeMarre Carroll, Greivis Vasquez, Hamed Haddadi
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HAWKS
STARTERS
C Al Horford (36)
PF Josh Smith (35)
SF Marvin Williams (31)
SG Joe Johnson (36)
PG Mike Bibby (27)
BENCH
SG Jamal Crawford (25)
C Zaza Pachulia (20)
PG Jeff Teague (16)
SF Maurice Evans (14)
PF Josh Powell (0)
SG Jordan Crawford (0)
C Jason Collins (0)
RESERVE
C Etan Thomas (0)
SF Pape Sy (0)
STAR: Joe Johnson
STARTER: Josh Smith, Al Horford, Marvin Williams, Mike Bibby
SIXTH: Jamal Crawford
ROLE: Zaza Pachulia, Jeff Teague, Maurice Evans
PROSPECT: Jordan Crawford
BENCH: Josh Powell, Etan Thomas, Pape Sy, Jason Collins
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HEAT
STARTERS
C Joel Anthony (18)
PF Chris Bosh (37)
SF LeBron James (39)
SG Dwyane Wade (36)
PG Carlos Arroyo (28)
BENCH
PF Udonis Haslem (24)
SF James Jones (24)
PG Eddie House (24)
C Zydrunas Ilgauskas (10)
PF Juwan Howard (0)
SG Jerry Stackhouse (0)
C Jamaal Magloire (0)
RESERVE
C Dexter Pittman (0)
PG Mario Chalmers (INJURED)
SG Mike Miller (INJURED, ETA JANUARY)
STAR: LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh
STARTER: Carlos Arroyo, Joel Anthony
SIXTH: Mike Miller
ROLE: Udonis Haslem, Zydrunas Ilgauskas
PROSPECT: Mario Chalmers
BENCH: Eddie House, James Jones, Juwan Howard, Jamaal Magloire, Dexter Pittman
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HORNETS
STARTERS
C Emeka Okafor (30)
PF David West (36)
SF Trevor Ariza (38)
SG Marco Belinelli (30)
PG Chris Paul (37)
BENCH
SG Marcus Thornton (16)
SG Willie Green (12)
PG Jerryd Bayless (12)
PF Jason Smith (12)
SF Peja Stojakovic (10)
C D.J. Mbenga (7)
PF Pops Mensah-Bonsu (0)
RESERVE
SF Quincy Pondexter (0)
C Aaron Gray (0)
SF Joe Alexander (0)
STAR: Chris Paul
STARTER: Emeka Okafor, David West, Trevor Ariza, Marco Belinelli
SIXTH: Marcus Thornton
ROLE: Willie Green, Jerryd Bayless, Peja Stojakovic
PROSPECT: Jason Smith, Quincy Pondexter
BENCH: Aaron Gray, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Joe Alexander
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JAZZ
STARTERS
C Al Jefferson (34)
PF Paul Millsap (33)
SF Andrei Kirilenko (30)
SG Raja Bell (29)
PG Deron Williams (38)
BENCH
SF C.J. Miles (265)
SF Gordon Hayward (19)
C Kyrylo Fesenko (14)
PG Earl Watson (10)
PF Jeremy Evans (8)
PG Ronnie Price (0)
C Francisco Elson (0)
RESERVE
C Mehmet Okur (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR: Deron Williams
STARTER: Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, Andrei Kirilenko, Raja Bell
SIXTH: Mehmet Okur
ROLE: C.J. Miles, Earl Watson
PROSPECT: Gordon Hayward, Kyrylo Fesenko
BENCH: Ronnie Price, Jeremy Evans, Francisco Elson
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KINGS
STARTERS
C DeMarcus Cousins (28)
PF Carl Landry (37)
SF Donte Greene (27)
SG Tyreke Evans (39)
PG Beno Udrih (34)
BENCH
SF Omri Casspi (21)
SG Francisco Garcia (20)
PF Justin Thompson (19)
PF Darnell Jackson (10)
SG Luther Head (5)
PG Eugene Jeter (0)
C Hassan Whiteside (0)
RESERVE
SG Antoine Wright (0)
C Samuel Dalembert (INJURED)
STAR: Tyreke Evans
STARTER: Carl Landry, DeMarcus Cousins, Beno Udrih, Donte Greene
SIXTH: Omri Casspi
ROLE: Samuel Dalembert, Jason Thompson, Francisco Garcia
PROSPECT: Hassan Whiteside
BENCH: Antoine Wright, Luther Head, Eugene Jeter, Darnell Jackson
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KNICKS
STARTERS
C Timofey Mozgov (18)
PF Amare Stoudemire (36)
SF Danilo Gallinari (33)
SG Landry Fields (24)
PG Raymond Felton (37)
BENCH
PF Wilson Chandler (32)
PG Toney Douglas (24)
C Ronny Turiaf (20)
SF Bill Walker (10)
SG Roger Mason (6)
SG Andy Rautins (0)
SF Shawne Williams (0)
RESERVE
PF Anthony Randolph (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
C Eddy Curry (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
SG Kelenna Azubuike (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR: Amare Stoudemire
STARTER: Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Landry Fields, Timofey Mozgov
SIXTH: Wilson Chandler
ROLE: Toney Douglas, Ronny Turiaf, Kelenna Azubuike
PROSPECT: Anthony Randolph, Bill Walker
BENCH: Roger Mason, Andy Rautins, Eddy Curry, Shawne Williams
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LAKERS
STARTERS
C Pau Gasol (37)
PF Lamar Odom (35)
SF Ron Artest (31)
SG Kobe Bryant (37)
PG Derek Fisher (23)
BENCH
PG Steve Blake (22)
SG Shannon Brown (21)
SF Matt Barnes (17)
C Theo Ratliff (17)
PF Derrick Caracter (0)
SG Sasha Vujacic (0)
SF Devin Ebanks (0)
RESERVE
SF Luke Walton (0)
C Andrew Bynum (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol
STARTER: Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, Derek Fisher
SIXTH: Lamar Odom
ROLE: Matt Barnes, Shannon Brown, Steve Blake
PROSPECT:
BENCH: Luke Walton, Theo Ratliff, Sasha Vujacic, Devin Ebanks, Derrick Caracter
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MAGIC
STARTERS
C Dwight Howard (34)
PF Rashard Lewis (34)
SF Quentin Richardson (26)
SG Vince Carter (30)
PG Jameer Nelson (32)
BENCH
SF Mickael Pietrus (22)
SG J.J. Redick (18)
PG Chris Duhon (16)
C Marcin Gortat (14)
PF Ryan Anderson (7)
PF Brandon Bass (7)
PG Jason Williams (0)
RESERVE
PF Malik Allen (0)
C Daniel Orton (INJURED)
STAR: Dwight Howard
STARTER: Vince Carter, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis, Quentin Richardson
SIXTH: Mickael Pietrus
ROLE: J.J. Redick, Marcin Gortat, Chris Duhon
PROSPECT: Ryan Anderson, Brandon Bass
BENCH: Jason Williams, Daniel Orton, Malik Allen
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MAVERICKS
STARTERS
C Tyson Chandler (24)
PF Dirk Nowitzki (36)
SF Caron Butler (34)
SG Jason Terry (34)
PG Jason Kidd (32)
BENCH
SF Shawn Marion (26)
C Brendan Haywood (24)
PG J.J. Barea (20)
SG Dominique Jones (10)
C Ian Mahinmi (0)
PF Brian Cardinal (0)
SG DeShawn Stevenson (0)
RESERVE
PF Steve Novak (0)
C Alexis Ajinca (0)
SG Rodrigue Beaubois (INJURED)
STAR: Dirk Nowitzki
STARTER: Jason Kidd, Caron Butler, Jason Terry, Tyson Chandler
SIXTH: Shawn Marion
ROLE: Brendan Haywood, J.J. Barea
PROSPECT: Dominique Jones, Rodrigue Beaubois
BENCH: Ian Mahinmi, DeShawn Stevenson, Alexis Ajinca
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NETS
STARTERS
C Brook Lopez (37)
PF Joe Smith (6)
SF Travis Outlaw (32)
SG Anthony Morrow (32)
PG Devin Harris (34)
BENCH
SG Terrence Williams (32)
PG Jordan Farmar (20)
PF Derrick Favors (20)
PF Kris Humphries (18)
C Johan Petro (9)
SG Stephen Graham (0)
SF Damion James (0)
RESERVE
SG Quinton Ross (0)
PG Ben Uzoh (0)
PF Troy Murphy (INJURED)
STAR: Brook Lopez
STARTER: Devin Harris, Troy Murphy, Travis Outlaw, Anthony Morrow
SIXTH: Terence Williams
ROLE: Kris Humphries, Jordan Farmar, Johan Petro
PROSPECT: Derrick Favors, Damion James
BENCH: Joe Smith, Ben Uzoh
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NUGGETS
STARTERS
C Nene (33)
PF Shelden Williams (28)
SF Carmelo Anthony (36)
SG Arron Afflalo (33)
PG Chauncey Billups (33)
BENCH
PF Al Harrington (24)
SG J.R. Smith (23)
PG Ty Lawson (20)
C Melvin Ely (10)
SF Gary Forbes (0)
SF Renaldo Balkman (0)
PG Anthony Carter (0)
RESERVE
C Chris Andersen (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
PF Kenyon Martin (INJURED, ETA JANUARY)
STARTER: Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Nene, Kenyon Martin, Arron Afflalo
SIXTH: Al Harrington
ROLE: J.R. Smith, Ty Lawson, Chris Andersen, Shelden Williams
PROSPECT:
BENCH: Anthony Carter, Renaldo Balkman, Melvin Ely, Gary Forbes
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PACERS
STARTERS
C Roy Hibbert (33)
PF Josh McRoberts (24)
SF Danny Granger (37)
SG Mike Dunleavy (32)
PG Darren Collison (35)
BENCH
PF James Posey (24)
SF Paul George (23)
PG T.J. Ford (17)
C Solomon Jones (15)
C Jeff Foster (0)
PF Tyler Hansbrough (0)
SG Dahntay Jones (0)
RESERVE
PG A.J. Price (0)
SG Lance Stephenson (0)
SG Brandon Rush (SUSPENDED 5 GAMES)
STAR: Danny Granger
STARTER: Darren Collison, Roy Hibbert, Josh McRoberts, Mike Dunleavy
SIXTH: James Posey
ROLE: T.J. Ford, Brandon Rush
PROSPECT: Paul George, Tyler Hansbrough, A.J. Price
BENCH: Dahntay Jones, Jeff Foster, Solomon Jones, Lance Stephenson
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PISTONS
STARTERS
C Ben Wallace (28)
PF Austin Daye (21)
SF Tayshaun Prince (31)
SG Richard Hamilton (32)
PG Rodney Stuckey (30)
BENCH
SG Ben Gordon (24)
PF Charlie Villanueva (23)
C Jason Maxiell (20)
PG Will Bynum (18)
SF Tracy McGrady (13)
C Greg Monroe (0)
SF DaJuan Summers (0)
RESERVE
PF Chris Wilcox (0)
SG Terrico White (INJURED)
PF Jonas Jerebko (INJURED, ETA MARCH)
STAR:
STARTER: Tayshaun Prince, Rodney Stuckey, Richard Hamilton, Ben Wallace, Austin Daye
SIXTH: Ben Gordon
ROLE: Charlie Villanueva, Will Bynum, Jason Maxiell, Tracy McGrady
PROSPECT: Greg Monroe, Jonas Jerebko
BENCH: Chris Wilcox, DaJuan Summers, Terrico White
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RAPTORS
STARTERS
C Andrea Bargnani (35)
PF Reggie Evans (29)
SF Linas Kleiza (28)
SG DeMar DeRozan (26)
PG Jarrett Jack (28)
BENCH
SG Leandro Barbosa (24)
PF Amir Johnson (22)
PG Jose Calderon (18)
SF Sonny Weems (18)
C David Andersen (12)
SF Julian Wright (0)
C Solomon Alabi (0)
RESERVE
PG Marcus Banks (0)
C Joey Dorsey (0)
PF Ed Davis (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
STAR: Andrea Bargnani
STARTER: Jarrett Jack, Linas Kleiza, Reggie Evans, Demar DeRozan
SIXTH: Leandro Barbosa
ROLE: Jose Calderon, Amir Johnson, Sonny Weems, David Andersen
PROSPECT: Ed Davis
BENCH: Julian Wright, Solomon Alabi, Marcus Banks, Joey Dorsey
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ROCKETS
STARTERS
C Yao Ming (24)
PF Luis Scola (33)
SF Shane Battier (29)
SG Kevin Martin (32)
PG Aaron Brooks (39)
BENCH
C Brad Miller (24)
SF Chase Budinger (21)
SG Courtney Lee (15)
C Chuck Hayes (15)
PG Ishmael Smith (8)
PF Jared Jeffries (0)
PF Jordan Hill (0)
RESERVE
PF Patrick Patterson (0)
SG Jermaine Taylor (0)
PG Kyle Lowry (INJURED)
STAR: Yao Ming
STARTER: Aaron Brooks, Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Shane Battier
SIXTH: Kyle Lowry
ROLE: Courtney Lee, Chuck Hayes, Brad Miller, Chase Budinger
PROSPECT: Jordan Hill, Patrick Patterson
BENCH: Jared Jeffries, Jermaine Taylor, Ishmael Smith
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SPURS
STARTERS
C Tim Duncan (33)
PF DeJuan Blair (20)
SF Richard Jefferson (31)
SG Manu Ginobili (32)
PG Tony Parker (38)
BENCH
PG George Hill (29)
SF James Anderson (19)
PF Antonio McDyess (19)
PF Matt Bonner (19)
SF Bobby Simmons (0)
SG Gary Neal (0)
PG Garrett Temple (0)
RESERVE
SF Alonzo Gee (0)
PF Tiago Splitter (INJURED)
STAR: Tim Duncan
STARTER: Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson, DeJuan Blair
SIXTH: George Hill
ROLE: Antonio McDyess, Matt Bonner
PROSPECT: James Anderson, Tiago Splitter
BENCH: Gary Neal, Bobby Simmons, Alonzo Gee, Garrett Temple
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SUNS
STARTERS
C Robin Lopez (25)
PF Hedo Turkoglu (27)
SF Grant Hill (26)
SG Jason Richardson (35)
PG Steve Nash (34)
BENCH
C Channing Frye (25)
SF Josh Childress (18)
SF Jared Dudley (18)
PF Hakim Warrick (18)
PG Goran Dragic (14)
PF Earl Clark (0)
C Garret Siler (0)
RESERVE
PF Gani Lawal (0)
SG Matt Janning (0)
STAR: Steve Nash
STARTER: Jason Richardson, Grant Hill, Hedo Turkoglu, Robin Lopez
SIXTH: Channing Frye
ROLE: Josh Childress, Jared Dudley, Hakim Warrick, Goran Dragic
PROSPECT:
BENCH: Earl Clark, Gani Lawal, Matt Janning, Garret Siler
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THUNDER
STARTERS
C Nenad Krstic (16)
PF Jeff Green (40)
SF Kevin Durant (41)
SG Thabo Sefolosha (25)
PG Russell Westbrook (35)
BENCH
PF Serge Ibaka (32)
SG James Harden (25)
PG Eric Maynor (13)
SG Daequan Cook (13)
C Cole Aldrich (0)
PF D.J. White (0)
PG Royal Ivey (0)
RESERVE
SF Morris Peterson (0)
C Byron Mullens (0)
C Nick Collison (INJURED)
STAR: Kevin Durant
STARTER: Russell Westbrook, Jeff Green, Thabo Sefolosha, Nenad Krstic
SIXTH: James Harden
ROLE: Serge Ibaka, Nick Collison, Eric Maynor
PROSPECT: Cole Aldrich, Daequan Cook
BENCH: Royal Ivey, D.J. White, Morris Peterson, Byron Mullens
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TIMBERWOLVES
STARTERS
C Darko Milicic (24)
PF Kevin Love (34)
SF Michael Beasley (34)
SG Wayne Ellington (22)
PG Luke Ridnour (32)
BENCH
SF Wesley Johnson (22)
C Nikola Pekovic (20)
SG Corey Brewer (18)
PF Anthony Tolliver (18)
PG Sebastian Telfair (16)
C Kosta Koufos (0)
SF Lazar Hayward (0)
RESERVE
SG Maurice Ager (0)
PG Jonny Flynn (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
SF Martell Webster (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
STAR:
STARTER: Kevin Love, Michael Beasley, Luke Ridnour, Darko Milicic, Wayne Ellington
SIXTH: Wesley Johnson
ROLE: Jonny Flynn, Corey Brewer, Martell Webster, Nikola Pekovic
PROSPECT: Lazar Hayward
BENCH: Sebastian Telfair, Anthony Tolliver, Kosta Koufos
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TRAILBLAZERS
STARTERS
C Marcus Camby (33)
PF LaMarcus Aldridge (38)
SF Nicolas Batum (30)
SG Brandon Roy (40)
PG Andre Miller (32)
BENCH
SF Wesley Matthews (25)
SG Rudy Fernandez (18)
PF Dante Cunningham (15)
PG Armon Johnson (5)
C Fabricio Oberto (5)
SF Luke Babbitt (0)
PG Patrick Mills (0)
RESERVE
SG Elliot Williams (0)
C Greg Oden (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
C Joel Przybilla (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
STAR: Brandon Roy
STARTER: Marcus Camby, LaMarcus Aldridge, Andre Miller, Nicolas Batum
SIXTH: Wesley Matthews
ROLE: Rudy Fernandez, Dante Cunningham
PROSPECT: Greg Oden, Armon Johnson, Luke Babbitt, Elliot Williams
BENCH: Joel Przybilla, Fabricio Oberto, Patrick Mills
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WARRIORS
STARTERS
C Andris Biedrins (30)
PF David Lee (40)
SF Dorell Wright (36)
SG Monta Ellis (40)
PG Stephen Curry (39)
BENCH
SF Reggie Williams (18)
SF Rodney Carney (18)
PF Brandan Wright (12)
PF Vladimir Radmanovic (7)
SG Charlie Bell (0)
C Dan Gadzuric (0)
PF Jeff Adrien (0)
RESERVE
PG Jeremy Lin (0)
PF Louis Amundson (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
C Ekpe Udoh (INJURED, ETA JANUARY)
STAR:
STARTER: David Lee, Monta Ellis, Stephen Curry, Andris Biedrins, Dorell Wright
SIXTH: Reggie Williams
ROLE: Louis Amundson, Rodney Carney
PROSPECT: Brandan Wright, Ekpe Udoh
BENCH: Charlie Bell, Vladimir Radmanovic, Dan Gadzuric, Jeremy Lin
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WIZARDS
STARTERS
C JaVale McGee (28)
PF Andray Blatche (34)
SF Al Thornton (32)
SG Kirk Hinrich (34)
PG John Wall (38)
BENCH
SG Nick Young (26)
PF Yi Jianlian (20)
PF Trevor Booker (14)
SF Cartier Martin (14)
C Hilton Armstrong (0)
PG Lester Hudson (0)
C Kevin Seraphin (0)
INACTIVE
C Hamady N’Diaye (0)
SF Josh Howard (INJURED)
SG Gilbert Arenas (INJURED)
STAR: John Wall
STARTER: Gilbert Arenas, Andray Blatche, Josh Howard, JaVale McGee
SIXTH: Kirk Hinrich
ROLE: Al Thornton, Nick Young, Yi Jianlian
PROSPECT: Trevor Booker, Kevin Seraphin
BENCH: Cartier Martin, Hilton Armstrong, Lester Hudson, Hamady N’Diaye
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
The Real NBA 2K11
Real 2K Insider has uploaded an NBA 2K11 roster file to 2K Share for 360! Search for it by...
FILE NAME: The Real NBA 2K11
GAMERTAG: Real 2K Insider
A WORD FROM THE EDITOR
Hello 2K community! Welcome to the Real 2K Insider blog!
Last season I spent a great deal of time adjusting my renowned ratings to 2K's new scale. This summer I also signed up for Synergy Sports Technology (the service NBA Live/Elite was using for their tendency data), which helped me develop the best player tendencies the 2K community has ever seen.
With the grunt work out of the way, I'm not about to settle for the status quo. This season, the goal is to expand upon my work even further to bring you the most comprehensive virtual NBA experience to date.
2K Sports promised you this. However, with tendencies out of the box that destroy the realism they claim to provide, they have failed. Unless of course, Andrea Bargnani taking 30 shots per game is realistic to you (in which case you might be in the wrong place).
My current plan is to have all the player re-rated by the end of the month (actually, by the end of next week). That way any changes throughout the course of the season should be relatively minor. After that, I will begin re-working all the player tendencies - there are quite a few that are just ruining the current gameplay (I'm looking at you, hyped up "Touches" tendency).
Perhaps most importantly, after great demand I will (finally) be uploading these rosters to PS3! I do not have a time table yet, but there should definitely be a roster up by the beginning of the NBA season.
This is going to be an exciting season, and I have big things planned for not only the roster, but how the Real 2K Insider presents it's content as well.
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UPDATE HISTORY
11/05/10: Updated all teams depth charts, continued editing ratings, tendencies, accessories, signatures, team rotations, and playbooks.
10/28/10: Uploaded opening night rosters w/ new base roster (i.e. a reset).
10/12/10: Uploaded roster now with 278 player edits and updated coach profiles.
10/07/10: Uploaded the initial roster with 200 player edits, and accurate rotations for all teams.
FILE DETAILS
- The best ratings for the last eight years running, calculated w/ advanced statistics from Basketball-Reference, 82games, Synergy Sports, as well as scouting reports and multiple other sources!
FUTURE INSTALLMENTS (i.e. the reason you keep checking back)
- All missing players
- Fully updated tendencies that will fix 2K's broken AI
- Updated coach profiles
- Accurate contracts as per ShamSports
- Accurate jersey numbers
- Updated rosters for classic teams
- Updated ratings & tendencies for classic teams
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THE RATINGS
*Bold denotes new addition.
POINT GUARDS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
91 – Chris Paul (-4)
89 – Deron Williams (-3)
84 – Steve Nash (-1)
84 – Rajon Rondo (-5)
82 – Derrick Rose (-3)
82 - Russell Westbrook (+1)
81 – Darren Collison (+1)
79 – Stephen Curry (-1)
79 – Baron Davis (-1)
78 – Chauncey Billups (-5)
78 – Devin Harris (0)
78 – Aaron Brooks (-2)
78 – Tony Parker (0)
77 – Jameer Nelson (+2)
77 – Brandon Jennings (+2)
76 – John Wall (-5)
76 – Jason Kidd (-7)
74 – Rodney Stuckey (0)
74 – Raymond Felton (+1)
74 – Luke Ridnour (+2)
74 – Jonny Flynn (0) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
73 – Mo Williams (-5)
73 – Andre Miller (-3)
73 – Louis Williams (+0)
73 – Ty Lawson (-2)
73 – Nate Robinson (-2)
72 – Kyle Lowry (-3)
72 – Toney Douglas (+2)
72 – Eric Maynor (+5)
71 – Michael Conley (-2)
71 – Jarrett Jack (+2)
70 – Jose Calderon (-2)
70 – T.J. Ford (-2)
70 – Jerryd Bayless (+4)
70 – Goran Dragic (+2)
70 – Keyon Dooling (+1)
70 – Jason Williams (0)
69 – Beno Udrih (+3)
69 – Jordan Farmar (+2)
68 – Mike Bibby (-5)
68 – Jrue Holiday (-2)
68 – Mario Chalmers (-1)
68 – Carlos Arroyo (+4)
68 – C.J. Watson (0)
68 – Earl Boykins (+3)
67 – D.J. Augustin (-2)
67 – George Hill (-9)
67 – Earl Watson (+3)
67 – Chris Duhon (-2)
67 – Jeff Teague (+4)
67 – A.J. Price (+14)
65 – Steve Blake (-3)
64 – Derek Fisher (-5)
64 – Shaun Livingston (+3)
64 – Marcus Banks (+2)
61 – Eddie House (+5)
58 – Royal Ivey (+5)
TRAINING CAMP
61 - Chris Quinn (+5)
60 – Patrick Mills (-6)
59 – John Lucas (+11)
57 – Javaris Crittenton (+1)
FREE AGENT
65 – Rafer Alston (-5)
65 – Jamaal Tinsley (0)
INTERNATIONAL
63 – Stephon Marbury (-4) (CHINA)
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SHOOTING GUARDS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
95 – Dwyane Wade (-2)
92 - Kobe Bryant (-5)
87 – Brandon Roy (-1)
84 – Joe Johnson (-4)
83 – Manu Ginobili (-4)
82 – Gilbert Arenas (-1)
82 – Tyreke Evans (0)
81 – Monta Ellis (-3)
80 – Andre Iguodala (-5)
79 – Stephen Jackson (-5)
78 – Vince Carter (-3)
78 – John Salmons (+4)
78 – Jamal Crawford (0)
78 – Evan Turner (+2)
77 – Kevin Martin (-3)
77 – James Harden (+3)
76 – Ben Gordon (0)
75 – Richard Hamilton (-2)
75 – O.J. Mayo (-5)
75 – Ray Allen (-5)
75 – Delonte West (+4)
75 – Jason Terry (-3)
74 – J.R. Smith (+3)
72 – Leandro Barbosa (-3)
71 – Shannon Brown (-2)
69 – Ronnie Brewer (0)
69 – Mike Miller (-3)
69 – Wesley Matthews (+3)
69 - Kelenna Azubuike (-2) (INJURED)
69 – Courtney Lee (+1)
68 – Rudy Fernandez (0)
68 – Chris Douglas-Roberts (-3)
67 – Anthony Parker (-2)
67 – Avery Bradley (+2)
66 – Thabo Sefolosha (0)
66 - Roger Mason (-2)
66 – Bill Walker (+1)
66 – Michael Redd (-7) (INJURED, ETA MARCH)
64 – Demar DeRozan (-1)
64 – Jodie Meeks (+6)
63 – Daequan Cook (+4)
62 – Sasha Vujacic (-4)
61 – Matt Carroll (+6)
61 – Jermaine Taylor (-1)
60 – Keith Bogans (-5)
59 – Gerald Henderson (-8)
58 – Andy Rautins (-2)
TRAINING CAMP
65 – Von Wafer (+4)
62 – Kyle Weaver (+3)
60 – Mario West (+3)
FREE AGENT
75 – Allen Iverson (-5)
70 – Flip Murray (+4)
69 – Larry Hughes (-3)
59 – Mardy Collins (+7) (INJURED)
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SMALL FORWARDS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
95 – LeBron James (-2)
90 – Kevin Durant (-2)
85 – Carmelo Anthony (-8)
83 – Gerald Wallace (-1)
82 – Danny Granger (-1)
80 – Paul Pierce (-2)
80 – Rudy Gay (-3)
78 – Corey Maggette (0)
77 – Caron Butler (-4)
77 – Andrei Kirilenko (+3)
76 – Luol Deng (-1)
76 – Ron Artest (-3)
75 – Tayshaun Prince (-1)
75 – Grant Hill (-2)
75 – Wilson Chandler (+1)
75 – Wesley Johnson (+2)
73 – Shawn Marion (-5)
73 – Trevor Ariza (-6)
73 – Thaddeus Young (+2)
73 – Carlos Delfino (+5)
73 – Matt Barnes (0)
72 – Nicolas Batum (+3)
71 – Shane Battier (-5)
71 – Danilo Gallinari (-1)
70 – Linas Kleiza (+15)
70 – Marvin Williams (+4)
70 – Austin Daye (+10)
69 – Rasual Butler (+8)
68 – Sonny Weems (+8)
68 – Marquis Daniels (+4)
68 – Kyle Korver (+2)
67 – James Johnson (+4)
67 – C.J. Miles (+9)
67 – Andres Nocioni (-1)
66 – Luke Walton (0) (INJURED)
64 – Landry Fields (CAP)
64 – Derrick Brown (-3)
63 – Dominic McGuire (0)
63 – Julian Wright (-1)
60 – James Jones (+2)
59 – Morris Peterson (+3)
59 – Devin Ebanks (CAP)
58 – Jason Kapono (0)
TRAINING CAMP
63 – Shawne Williams (+7)
62 – Ronald Dupree (+8)
FREE AGENT
66 – Jarvis Hayes (0)
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POWER FORWARDS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
86 – Chris Bosh (-1)
85 – Amare Stoudemire (-1)
85 – Carlos Boozer (0) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
84 – Pau Gasol (-5)
82 – Dirk Nowitzki (-2)
82 – Kevin Garnett (+2)
82 – Kevin Love (+8)
82 – Josh Smith (-2)
81 – David Lee (-2)
80 – Zach Randolph (0)
79 – David West (+4)
79 – Blake Griffin (+2)
78 – Andray Blatche (+6)
78 – Luis Scola (0)
78 – Paul Millsap (+4)
78 – Lamar Odom (-1)
78 – Tyrus Thomas (+7)
77 – LaMarcus Aldridge (0)
77 – Carl Landry (+2)
76 – Antawn Jamison (-3)
76 – Elton Brand (+3)
75 – Michael Beasley (+1)
75 – Kenyon Martin (-2) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
74 – Al Harrington (0)
74 – Jeff Green (-4)
74 – Anthony Randolph (+4)
73 – Taj Gibson (+4)
73 – Udonis Haslem (+2)
72 – Serge Ibaka (+7)
71 – Amir Johnson (+8)
71 – Craig Smith (+9)
71 – Glen Davis (+4)
71 – D.J. White (+10)
70 – Boris Diaw (0)
70 – Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (0)
70 – Ersan Ilyasova (+1)
69 - Louis Amundson (+5)
69 – Ryan Anderson (+7)
69 – Ed Davis (+2) (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
67 – Shelden Williams (+7)
67 – Reggie Evans (+4)
67 – Dante Cunningham (+6)
67 – Luke Harangody (CAP)
66 – Juwan Howard (+8)
65 – Josh McRoberts (+11)
65 – Darius Songaila (+3)
65 – Craig Brackins (0)
64 – Jeff Pendergraph (+2) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
64 – Derrick Caracter (CAP)
63 – Jon Brockman (+10)
61 – Eduardo Najera (-2)
TRAINING CAMP
65 – Darius Miles (+6)
60 – Shavlik Randolph (+8)
58 – Patrick Ewing Jr. (+2)
54 – Brian Scalabrine (+10)
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CENTERS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
92 – Dwight Howard (+4)
88 – Tim Duncan (-2)
84 – Yao Ming (0)
81 – Al Horford (0)
80 - Andrew Bogut (-2)
80 – Al Jefferson (0)
79 – Greg Oden (+4) (INJURED)
78 – Brook Lopez (-3)
78 – Andrew Bynum (+1) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
78 – Marc Gasol (+1)
78 – Nene (+3)
78 – Emeka Okafor (+1)
78 – Shaquille O’Neal (+1)
77 – Jermaine O’Neal (+3)
77 – Kendrick Perkins (+4) (INJURED, ETA JANUARY)
77 – Joakim Noah (0)
76 – Marcus Camby (-2)
76 – Mehmet Okur (+1) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
75 – Chris Kaman (-3)
74 – Roy Hibbert (+3)
73 – Nazr Mohammed (+8)
73 – Marreese Speights (+1)
72 – Andrea Bargnani (-2)
72 – Robin Lopez (+8)
72 – Drew Gooden (+3)
72 – Anderson Varejao (0)
72 – Marcin Gortat (+3)
71 – Ben Wallace (-1)
70 – Chris Andersen (+4) (INJURED)
70 – Zydrunas Ilgauskas (0)
69 – Kurt Thomas (+1)
69 – Joel Przybilla (+2) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
68 – JaVale McGee (+2)
68 – Spencer Hawes (+2)
68 - Ronny Turiaf (+1)
68 – Larry Sanders (+3)
68 – Nick Collison (+5)
67 – Nenad Krstic (+8)
67 – Cole Aldrich (+3)
67 – Channing Frye (+4)
67 – Brad Miller (+1)
65 – Darko Milicic (+8)
65 – David Andersen (+8)
65 – Ryan Hollins (+10)
64 – Joel Anthony (+6)
64 – DeAndre Jordan (+3)
64 – Kwame Brown (+2) (INJURED)
63 – Omer Asik (CAP)
63 – Semih Erden (CAP)
62 – Timofey Mozgov (+3)
62 – Johan Petro (+6)
61 – Kyrylo Fesenko (+13)
61 – Theo Ratliff (+1)
61 – Jamaal Magloire (+4)
61 – Solomon Alabi (CAP)
60 – DeSagana Diop (+2)
59 – Tony Battie (+2)
59 – Eddy Curry (-5) (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
56 – Byron Mullens (+10)
TRAINING CAMP
59 – Joey Dorsey (-4)
59 – Brian Skinner (+3)
FREE AGENT
70 – Erick Dampier (+10)
63 – DJ Mbenga (+12)
60 – Chris Richard (+4)
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TEAM RANKINGS
2k abolished their team ratings (which makes little sense to be honest, even if they were broken), so instead we're left with numerical rankings. Here's the overall ranking for each team, separated by conference.
EAST
1. Heat
2. Magic
4. Celtics
6. Bucks
8. Bulls
9. Bobcats
11. Hawks
13. Knicks
16. Sixers
22. Cavaliers
23. Pacers
25. Wizards
28. Nets
29. Raptors
30. Pistons
WEST
3. Thunder
5. Lakers
7. Jazz
10. Nuggets
12. Blazers
14. Spurs
15. Mavericks
17. Grizzlies
18. Suns
19. Rockets
20. Hornets
21. Warriors
23. Kings
26. Clippers
27. Wolves
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As always, feedback, comments, etc are welcome. Download, rate, and enjoy!
~Rashidi
FILE NAME: The Real NBA 2K11
GAMERTAG: Real 2K Insider
A WORD FROM THE EDITOR
Hello 2K community! Welcome to the Real 2K Insider blog!
Last season I spent a great deal of time adjusting my renowned ratings to 2K's new scale. This summer I also signed up for Synergy Sports Technology (the service NBA Live/Elite was using for their tendency data), which helped me develop the best player tendencies the 2K community has ever seen.
With the grunt work out of the way, I'm not about to settle for the status quo. This season, the goal is to expand upon my work even further to bring you the most comprehensive virtual NBA experience to date.
2K Sports promised you this. However, with tendencies out of the box that destroy the realism they claim to provide, they have failed. Unless of course, Andrea Bargnani taking 30 shots per game is realistic to you (in which case you might be in the wrong place).
My current plan is to have all the player re-rated by the end of the month (actually, by the end of next week). That way any changes throughout the course of the season should be relatively minor. After that, I will begin re-working all the player tendencies - there are quite a few that are just ruining the current gameplay (I'm looking at you, hyped up "Touches" tendency).
Perhaps most importantly, after great demand I will (finally) be uploading these rosters to PS3! I do not have a time table yet, but there should definitely be a roster up by the beginning of the NBA season.
This is going to be an exciting season, and I have big things planned for not only the roster, but how the Real 2K Insider presents it's content as well.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATE HISTORY
11/05/10: Updated all teams depth charts, continued editing ratings, tendencies, accessories, signatures, team rotations, and playbooks.
10/28/10: Uploaded opening night rosters w/ new base roster (i.e. a reset).
10/12/10: Uploaded roster now with 278 player edits and updated coach profiles.
10/07/10: Uploaded the initial roster with 200 player edits, and accurate rotations for all teams.
FILE DETAILS
- The best ratings for the last eight years running, calculated w/ advanced statistics from Basketball-Reference, 82games, Synergy Sports, as well as scouting reports and multiple other sources!
FUTURE INSTALLMENTS (i.e. the reason you keep checking back)
- All missing players
- Fully updated tendencies that will fix 2K's broken AI
- Updated coach profiles
- Accurate contracts as per ShamSports
- Accurate jersey numbers
- Updated rosters for classic teams
- Updated ratings & tendencies for classic teams
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
THE RATINGS
*Bold denotes new addition.
POINT GUARDS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
91 – Chris Paul (-4)
89 – Deron Williams (-3)
84 – Steve Nash (-1)
84 – Rajon Rondo (-5)
82 – Derrick Rose (-3)
82 - Russell Westbrook (+1)
81 – Darren Collison (+1)
79 – Stephen Curry (-1)
79 – Baron Davis (-1)
78 – Chauncey Billups (-5)
78 – Devin Harris (0)
78 – Aaron Brooks (-2)
78 – Tony Parker (0)
77 – Jameer Nelson (+2)
77 – Brandon Jennings (+2)
76 – John Wall (-5)
76 – Jason Kidd (-7)
74 – Rodney Stuckey (0)
74 – Raymond Felton (+1)
74 – Luke Ridnour (+2)
74 – Jonny Flynn (0) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
73 – Mo Williams (-5)
73 – Andre Miller (-3)
73 – Louis Williams (+0)
73 – Ty Lawson (-2)
73 – Nate Robinson (-2)
72 – Kyle Lowry (-3)
72 – Toney Douglas (+2)
72 – Eric Maynor (+5)
71 – Michael Conley (-2)
71 – Jarrett Jack (+2)
70 – Jose Calderon (-2)
70 – T.J. Ford (-2)
70 – Jerryd Bayless (+4)
70 – Goran Dragic (+2)
70 – Keyon Dooling (+1)
70 – Jason Williams (0)
69 – Beno Udrih (+3)
69 – Jordan Farmar (+2)
68 – Mike Bibby (-5)
68 – Jrue Holiday (-2)
68 – Mario Chalmers (-1)
68 – Carlos Arroyo (+4)
68 – C.J. Watson (0)
68 – Earl Boykins (+3)
67 – D.J. Augustin (-2)
67 – George Hill (-9)
67 – Earl Watson (+3)
67 – Chris Duhon (-2)
67 – Jeff Teague (+4)
67 – A.J. Price (+14)
65 – Steve Blake (-3)
64 – Derek Fisher (-5)
64 – Shaun Livingston (+3)
64 – Marcus Banks (+2)
61 – Eddie House (+5)
58 – Royal Ivey (+5)
TRAINING CAMP
61 - Chris Quinn (+5)
60 – Patrick Mills (-6)
59 – John Lucas (+11)
57 – Javaris Crittenton (+1)
FREE AGENT
65 – Rafer Alston (-5)
65 – Jamaal Tinsley (0)
INTERNATIONAL
63 – Stephon Marbury (-4) (CHINA)
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SHOOTING GUARDS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
95 – Dwyane Wade (-2)
92 - Kobe Bryant (-5)
87 – Brandon Roy (-1)
84 – Joe Johnson (-4)
83 – Manu Ginobili (-4)
82 – Gilbert Arenas (-1)
82 – Tyreke Evans (0)
81 – Monta Ellis (-3)
80 – Andre Iguodala (-5)
79 – Stephen Jackson (-5)
78 – Vince Carter (-3)
78 – John Salmons (+4)
78 – Jamal Crawford (0)
78 – Evan Turner (+2)
77 – Kevin Martin (-3)
77 – James Harden (+3)
76 – Ben Gordon (0)
75 – Richard Hamilton (-2)
75 – O.J. Mayo (-5)
75 – Ray Allen (-5)
75 – Delonte West (+4)
75 – Jason Terry (-3)
74 – J.R. Smith (+3)
72 – Leandro Barbosa (-3)
71 – Shannon Brown (-2)
69 – Ronnie Brewer (0)
69 – Mike Miller (-3)
69 – Wesley Matthews (+3)
69 - Kelenna Azubuike (-2) (INJURED)
69 – Courtney Lee (+1)
68 – Rudy Fernandez (0)
68 – Chris Douglas-Roberts (-3)
67 – Anthony Parker (-2)
67 – Avery Bradley (+2)
66 – Thabo Sefolosha (0)
66 - Roger Mason (-2)
66 – Bill Walker (+1)
66 – Michael Redd (-7) (INJURED, ETA MARCH)
64 – Demar DeRozan (-1)
64 – Jodie Meeks (+6)
63 – Daequan Cook (+4)
62 – Sasha Vujacic (-4)
61 – Matt Carroll (+6)
61 – Jermaine Taylor (-1)
60 – Keith Bogans (-5)
59 – Gerald Henderson (-8)
58 – Andy Rautins (-2)
TRAINING CAMP
65 – Von Wafer (+4)
62 – Kyle Weaver (+3)
60 – Mario West (+3)
FREE AGENT
75 – Allen Iverson (-5)
70 – Flip Murray (+4)
69 – Larry Hughes (-3)
59 – Mardy Collins (+7) (INJURED)
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SMALL FORWARDS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
95 – LeBron James (-2)
90 – Kevin Durant (-2)
85 – Carmelo Anthony (-8)
83 – Gerald Wallace (-1)
82 – Danny Granger (-1)
80 – Paul Pierce (-2)
80 – Rudy Gay (-3)
78 – Corey Maggette (0)
77 – Caron Butler (-4)
77 – Andrei Kirilenko (+3)
76 – Luol Deng (-1)
76 – Ron Artest (-3)
75 – Tayshaun Prince (-1)
75 – Grant Hill (-2)
75 – Wilson Chandler (+1)
75 – Wesley Johnson (+2)
73 – Shawn Marion (-5)
73 – Trevor Ariza (-6)
73 – Thaddeus Young (+2)
73 – Carlos Delfino (+5)
73 – Matt Barnes (0)
72 – Nicolas Batum (+3)
71 – Shane Battier (-5)
71 – Danilo Gallinari (-1)
70 – Linas Kleiza (+15)
70 – Marvin Williams (+4)
70 – Austin Daye (+10)
69 – Rasual Butler (+8)
68 – Sonny Weems (+8)
68 – Marquis Daniels (+4)
68 – Kyle Korver (+2)
67 – James Johnson (+4)
67 – C.J. Miles (+9)
67 – Andres Nocioni (-1)
66 – Luke Walton (0) (INJURED)
64 – Landry Fields (CAP)
64 – Derrick Brown (-3)
63 – Dominic McGuire (0)
63 – Julian Wright (-1)
60 – James Jones (+2)
59 – Morris Peterson (+3)
59 – Devin Ebanks (CAP)
58 – Jason Kapono (0)
TRAINING CAMP
63 – Shawne Williams (+7)
62 – Ronald Dupree (+8)
FREE AGENT
66 – Jarvis Hayes (0)
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POWER FORWARDS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
86 – Chris Bosh (-1)
85 – Amare Stoudemire (-1)
85 – Carlos Boozer (0) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
84 – Pau Gasol (-5)
82 – Dirk Nowitzki (-2)
82 – Kevin Garnett (+2)
82 – Kevin Love (+8)
82 – Josh Smith (-2)
81 – David Lee (-2)
80 – Zach Randolph (0)
79 – David West (+4)
79 – Blake Griffin (+2)
78 – Andray Blatche (+6)
78 – Luis Scola (0)
78 – Paul Millsap (+4)
78 – Lamar Odom (-1)
78 – Tyrus Thomas (+7)
77 – LaMarcus Aldridge (0)
77 – Carl Landry (+2)
76 – Antawn Jamison (-3)
76 – Elton Brand (+3)
75 – Michael Beasley (+1)
75 – Kenyon Martin (-2) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
74 – Al Harrington (0)
74 – Jeff Green (-4)
74 – Anthony Randolph (+4)
73 – Taj Gibson (+4)
73 – Udonis Haslem (+2)
72 – Serge Ibaka (+7)
71 – Amir Johnson (+8)
71 – Craig Smith (+9)
71 – Glen Davis (+4)
71 – D.J. White (+10)
70 – Boris Diaw (0)
70 – Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (0)
70 – Ersan Ilyasova (+1)
69 - Louis Amundson (+5)
69 – Ryan Anderson (+7)
69 – Ed Davis (+2) (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
67 – Shelden Williams (+7)
67 – Reggie Evans (+4)
67 – Dante Cunningham (+6)
67 – Luke Harangody (CAP)
66 – Juwan Howard (+8)
65 – Josh McRoberts (+11)
65 – Darius Songaila (+3)
65 – Craig Brackins (0)
64 – Jeff Pendergraph (+2) (INJURED, OUT FOR SEASON)
64 – Derrick Caracter (CAP)
63 – Jon Brockman (+10)
61 – Eduardo Najera (-2)
TRAINING CAMP
65 – Darius Miles (+6)
60 – Shavlik Randolph (+8)
58 – Patrick Ewing Jr. (+2)
54 – Brian Scalabrine (+10)
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CENTERS
Rating – Player (2K Diff)
92 – Dwight Howard (+4)
88 – Tim Duncan (-2)
84 – Yao Ming (0)
81 – Al Horford (0)
80 - Andrew Bogut (-2)
80 – Al Jefferson (0)
79 – Greg Oden (+4) (INJURED)
78 – Brook Lopez (-3)
78 – Andrew Bynum (+1) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
78 – Marc Gasol (+1)
78 – Nene (+3)
78 – Emeka Okafor (+1)
78 – Shaquille O’Neal (+1)
77 – Jermaine O’Neal (+3)
77 – Kendrick Perkins (+4) (INJURED, ETA JANUARY)
77 – Joakim Noah (0)
76 – Marcus Camby (-2)
76 – Mehmet Okur (+1) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
75 – Chris Kaman (-3)
74 – Roy Hibbert (+3)
73 – Nazr Mohammed (+8)
73 – Marreese Speights (+1)
72 – Andrea Bargnani (-2)
72 – Robin Lopez (+8)
72 – Drew Gooden (+3)
72 – Anderson Varejao (0)
72 – Marcin Gortat (+3)
71 – Ben Wallace (-1)
70 – Chris Andersen (+4) (INJURED)
70 – Zydrunas Ilgauskas (0)
69 – Kurt Thomas (+1)
69 – Joel Przybilla (+2) (INJURED, ETA DECEMBER)
68 – JaVale McGee (+2)
68 – Spencer Hawes (+2)
68 - Ronny Turiaf (+1)
68 – Larry Sanders (+3)
68 – Nick Collison (+5)
67 – Nenad Krstic (+8)
67 – Cole Aldrich (+3)
67 – Channing Frye (+4)
67 – Brad Miller (+1)
65 – Darko Milicic (+8)
65 – David Andersen (+8)
65 – Ryan Hollins (+10)
64 – Joel Anthony (+6)
64 – DeAndre Jordan (+3)
64 – Kwame Brown (+2) (INJURED)
63 – Omer Asik (CAP)
63 – Semih Erden (CAP)
62 – Timofey Mozgov (+3)
62 – Johan Petro (+6)
61 – Kyrylo Fesenko (+13)
61 – Theo Ratliff (+1)
61 – Jamaal Magloire (+4)
61 – Solomon Alabi (CAP)
60 – DeSagana Diop (+2)
59 – Tony Battie (+2)
59 – Eddy Curry (-5) (INJURED, ETA NOVEMBER)
56 – Byron Mullens (+10)
TRAINING CAMP
59 – Joey Dorsey (-4)
59 – Brian Skinner (+3)
FREE AGENT
70 – Erick Dampier (+10)
63 – DJ Mbenga (+12)
60 – Chris Richard (+4)
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TEAM RANKINGS
2k abolished their team ratings (which makes little sense to be honest, even if they were broken), so instead we're left with numerical rankings. Here's the overall ranking for each team, separated by conference.
EAST
1. Heat
2. Magic
4. Celtics
6. Bucks
8. Bulls
9. Bobcats
11. Hawks
13. Knicks
16. Sixers
22. Cavaliers
23. Pacers
25. Wizards
28. Nets
29. Raptors
30. Pistons
WEST
3. Thunder
5. Lakers
7. Jazz
10. Nuggets
12. Blazers
14. Spurs
15. Mavericks
17. Grizzlies
18. Suns
19. Rockets
20. Hornets
21. Warriors
23. Kings
26. Clippers
27. Wolves
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As always, feedback, comments, etc are welcome. Download, rate, and enjoy!
~Rashidi
Breaking down 2K Sports' opening night roster
Here's a nifty little review of 2K's opening night roster. You guys know how much I love the rosters this company has been putting out the last decade.
RATING CHANGES
Derrick Rose
87 Overall (+2)
81 OBD (+1)
95 OffAwr (+3)
76 DefAwr (+6)
99 Stamina (+2)
Analysis: The overrated get more overrated... were people really complaining that Rose wasn't rated higher than an all-star PF?
Andre Iguodala
Position: SG (from SF)
86 Overall (+1)
Analysis: No rating changes, just a position switch. Anyone else find it comical that Iggy doesn't average 20 ppg, can't make an all-star team, can't lead a team to the playoffs, but annually gets ratings on par with Brandon Roy?
Russell Westbrook
85 Overall (+4)
86 Inside (+1)
76 Medium (+1)
78 FT (-2)
56 OffReb (+6)
41 DefReb (+2)
70 Consistency (+45)
99 Stamina (+4)
96 Speed (+3)
98 Quick (+2)
Analysis: Westbrook's consistency obviously needed a big boost. I'm not so sure about the speed/quickness, but I suppose if you're going to overrate Derrick Rose and John Wall in those categories, Russell Westbrook better be right there with them.
Kevin Love
76 Overall (+2)
43 Pass (+12)
75 OffAwr (+8)
65 DefAwr (+10)
Analysis: A start, but let's get real, he is far from a finished rating product. He is less athletic than 38 year old Shaq.
Thaddeus Young
Position: SF (from PF)
+5 Overall (+5)
Analysis: This is why we don't weigh overall too heavily around here, especially for players caught between positions. It's worth noting that the 2K Insider did NOT lower Young's Mid-range rating from it's incredulously high 86. I know for a fact that this was brought to 2K's attention NUMEROUS times over the last month. Apparently the fans AND stats lie.
Nicolas Batum
75 Overall (+6)
87 Inside (+3)
77 Medium (+6)
83 3pt (-2)
70 SOD (+2) - For a spot-up player? 2K does watch the games, right?
70 Handle (+6)
64 Off-Hand (+6)
54 Security (+3)
44 Pass (+4)
67 Block (+15) - Completely unwarranted, he ain't Kirilenko.
71 Steal (+3)
72 Hands (+11)
82 OBD (+2)
45 OffReb (-17)
56 DefReb (+10)
53 PostOff (+12)
66 PostDef (+3)
60 OffAwr (+2)
79 DefAwr (+9) - I had 78.
40 DefClutch (+15) - This is where I had it.
50 Consistency (+25) - This is where I had it.
88 Stamina (+3)
78 Speed (+9) - I had 79.
76 Quick (+4)
78 Potential (+6)
Analysis: Nice to see a very comprehensive edit, but some of these values are out of left field, and surely designed to boost him to his currently lofty overall.
SIGNATURE EDITS
Kevin Martin got a new jumper... you'll never guess whose... KENYON Martin's. 2K Sports, hard at work, 11 years running.
Stephen Curry gets former teammate Kelenna Azubuike's jumper
MISSING PLAYERS ADDED
62 - Darington Hobson (SF) - Bucks
59 - Omer Asik (C) - Bulls
58 - Luke Harangody - Celtics
52 - Pape Sy (PG/SG) - Hawks (YES, YOU READ THAT CORRECTLY. PG/SG.
50 - Dexter Pittman (C) - Heat
64 - Landry Fields (SF/SG) - Knicks
66 - Devin Ebanks (SF) - Lakers
63 - Derrick Caracter (PF) - Lakers
66 - Terrico White (SG) - Pistons
64 - Armon Johnson (PG) - Blazers
62 - Jeremy Lin (GSW) - Warriors
MISSING PLAYERS... STILL MISSING
Sherron Collins (PG) - Bobcats
Christian Eyenga (SG/SF) - Cavaliers
Manny Harris (SG/SF) - Cavaliers
Samardo Samuels (PF/C) - Cavaliers
Semih Erden (C) - Celtics
Willie Warren (SG) - Clippers
Eugene Jeter (PG) - Kings
Ben Uzoh (PG) - Nets
Gary Forbes (SF) - Nuggets
Lance Stephenson (SG) - Pacers
Solomon Alabi (C) - Raptors
Ishmael Smith (PG) - Rockets
Gary Neal (SG) - Spurs
Matt Janning (SG) - Suns
Gani Lawal (PF) - Suns
Garret Siler (C) - Suns
Jeff Adrien (PF) - Warriors
Hamady N'Diaye (C) - Wizards
VARIOUS ROSTER ERRORS
Sundiata Gaines still on Jazz
Ronald Dupree still on Raptors
Dwayne Jones still on Suns
Coby Karl still on Nuggets (he only signed in Spain A MONTH AGO...)
Melvin Ely still missing from Nuggets roster (thousand bucks says they don't even know he's in the FA pool)
Lester Hudson still missing from Wizards roster
Maurice Ager is still mising from the Wolves roster
Royal Ivey is still missing from Thunder roster... even though he signed a guaranteed contract with the team over the summer. 2K Insider my ass.
PLAYERS GONE AWOL
Allen Iverson (SG/PG)
Sergio Rodriguez (PG) - Actually, he didn't even make it into the 2K10 defaults.
Stephon Marbury, who left for China LAST SEASON, and just signed a THREE YEAR CONTRACT to stay in China for the rest of his professional career, remains in the game.
Brevin Knight and Malik Rose, who retired last season to call Bobcats and Knick games, also remain in the game.
Lindsey Hunter, who retired in the middle of last season to become an assistant coach, he's still here too.
Mark Madsen is a D-League coach, and retired almost 2 years ago now. He's still in the game.
Jerome James... nevermind, it still hurts to talk about it.
The last court Kirk Snyder stepped foot into sentenced him to prison. He's still in the game. Who wants to place bets that he's removed from prison before he's removed from 2K's rosters?
Lynn Greer and Vassilis Spanoulis, who played one season each in the NBA back in 2007 before returning to Europe, they too remain in the game.
Ha-Seung Jin hasn't played in the NBA since 2006. It's been 5 years. He's still in the game.
Jared Jordan, Devon Hardin, and Brandon Wallace have NEVER played a single NBA game in their lives. They're still in the game.
But the second Allen Iverson (a five-time 2K coverboy) signs in Turkey? Gone the next day.
MAKING FUN OF 2K'S INJURIES
My favorite part of the night, reserved for my least favorite part about 2K's rosters (and I'm far from alone in this regard). Time to laugh at the injuries that us common users cannot remove.
YELLOW - Still playable, and still trying to figure out why this is given to players who are NOT playing through their injuries. Give it to guys like Iguodala.
(CHA) Dominic McGuire: Shin Splints (4-6 weeks)
(MIL) Darington Hobson: Bruised Hip (12-14 months) - Um, why isn't he red?
(CHI) Carlos Boozer: Broken Finger (6-8 weeks)
(SAC) Samuel Dalember: Bruised Hip (4-6 weeks)
(NYK) Eddy Curry: Strained Hamstring (6-8 months) - I can't help but laugh at the unintentional accuracy of this one. In reality though, Curry should be healthy in November.
(ORL) Daniel Orton: Sore Knee (8-10 weeks)
(MIN) Jonny Flynn: Bruised Hip (4-6 months) - He sounds like he'll be back in two weeks.
(GSW) Louis Amundson: Broken Finger (4-6 weeks)
RED - Not playable. Oh, and you also can't release them. POINTLESS RESTRICTIONS FTW
(MIL) Michael Redd: Torn ACL (12-14 months) - He's working towards a March return.
(BOS) Kendrick Perkins: Torn MCL (8-10 months) - He'll be back in February, if not January.
(BOS) Delonte West: Suspended (2-4 weeks)
(MIA) Mike Miller: Torn Hand Ligament (1-2 months) - Apparently January is 6 weeks from now.
(UTA) Mehmet Okur: Torn Achilles (8-10 months) - He'll be back in December.
(NYK) Kelenna Azubuike: Torn Patellar Tendon (12-14 months)
(LAL) Andrew Bynum: Arthoscopic Surgery (4-6 Months) - December is a long time from now. I still have half a year to go christmas shopping.
(DAL) Rodrigue Beaubois: Broken Foot (2-4 months) - He'll be back in November.
(DEN) Kenyon Martin: Arthoscopic Surgery (6-8 months) - Shooting for January 1st.
(DEN) Chris Andersen: Torn Patellar Tendon (4-6 months) - Shooting for December 1st.
(IND) Kareem Rush: Suspended (1-2 weeks)
(DET) Terrico White: Broken Foot (8-10 weeks) - OH MY GOD! A RETURN DATE THAT'S FINALLY ACCURATE!
(DET) Jonas Jerebko: Torn Achilles (4-6 months) - SEE ABOVE!
(TOR) Ed Davis: Arthoscopic Surgery (8-10 weeks)
(POR) Greg Oden: Broken Patella (12-14 months) - Fortune telling at it's finest.
(POR) Joel Przybilla: Torn Patellar Tendon (10-12 months) - He is already practicing with the team.
(GSW) Ekpe Udoh: Broken Wrist (6-8 months) - Coming back in January.
(WAS) Josh Howard: Torn ACL (10-12 months) - Coming back in December, if not November.
(FA) Jeff Pendergraph: Torn ACL (10-12 months)
INJURED PLAYERS WHO AREN'T INJURED!
(PHI) Andre Iguodala
(CHA) Kwame Brown: Should be out at least another 2 weeks.
(MIL) Chris Douglas-Roberts: Eye surgery announced date of roster release. 2K gets a break.
(MEM) Marc Gasol
(SAS) Tiago Splitter
I'm sure there's a few others.
The more I see these 2K rosters, the more I am convinced that the 2K Insider is a techie/suit that simply doesn't watch the NBA.
RATING CHANGES
Derrick Rose
87 Overall (+2)
81 OBD (+1)
95 OffAwr (+3)
76 DefAwr (+6)
99 Stamina (+2)
Analysis: The overrated get more overrated... were people really complaining that Rose wasn't rated higher than an all-star PF?
Andre Iguodala
Position: SG (from SF)
86 Overall (+1)
Analysis: No rating changes, just a position switch. Anyone else find it comical that Iggy doesn't average 20 ppg, can't make an all-star team, can't lead a team to the playoffs, but annually gets ratings on par with Brandon Roy?
Russell Westbrook
85 Overall (+4)
86 Inside (+1)
76 Medium (+1)
78 FT (-2)
56 OffReb (+6)
41 DefReb (+2)
70 Consistency (+45)
99 Stamina (+4)
96 Speed (+3)
98 Quick (+2)
Analysis: Westbrook's consistency obviously needed a big boost. I'm not so sure about the speed/quickness, but I suppose if you're going to overrate Derrick Rose and John Wall in those categories, Russell Westbrook better be right there with them.
Kevin Love
76 Overall (+2)
43 Pass (+12)
75 OffAwr (+8)
65 DefAwr (+10)
Analysis: A start, but let's get real, he is far from a finished rating product. He is less athletic than 38 year old Shaq.
Thaddeus Young
Position: SF (from PF)
+5 Overall (+5)
Analysis: This is why we don't weigh overall too heavily around here, especially for players caught between positions. It's worth noting that the 2K Insider did NOT lower Young's Mid-range rating from it's incredulously high 86. I know for a fact that this was brought to 2K's attention NUMEROUS times over the last month. Apparently the fans AND stats lie.
Nicolas Batum
75 Overall (+6)
87 Inside (+3)
77 Medium (+6)
83 3pt (-2)
70 SOD (+2) - For a spot-up player? 2K does watch the games, right?
70 Handle (+6)
64 Off-Hand (+6)
54 Security (+3)
44 Pass (+4)
67 Block (+15) - Completely unwarranted, he ain't Kirilenko.
71 Steal (+3)
72 Hands (+11)
82 OBD (+2)
45 OffReb (-17)
56 DefReb (+10)
53 PostOff (+12)
66 PostDef (+3)
60 OffAwr (+2)
79 DefAwr (+9) - I had 78.
40 DefClutch (+15) - This is where I had it.
50 Consistency (+25) - This is where I had it.
88 Stamina (+3)
78 Speed (+9) - I had 79.
76 Quick (+4)
78 Potential (+6)
Analysis: Nice to see a very comprehensive edit, but some of these values are out of left field, and surely designed to boost him to his currently lofty overall.
SIGNATURE EDITS
Kevin Martin got a new jumper... you'll never guess whose... KENYON Martin's. 2K Sports, hard at work, 11 years running.
Stephen Curry gets former teammate Kelenna Azubuike's jumper
MISSING PLAYERS ADDED
62 - Darington Hobson (SF) - Bucks
59 - Omer Asik (C) - Bulls
58 - Luke Harangody - Celtics
52 - Pape Sy (PG/SG) - Hawks (YES, YOU READ THAT CORRECTLY. PG/SG.
50 - Dexter Pittman (C) - Heat
64 - Landry Fields (SF/SG) - Knicks
66 - Devin Ebanks (SF) - Lakers
63 - Derrick Caracter (PF) - Lakers
66 - Terrico White (SG) - Pistons
64 - Armon Johnson (PG) - Blazers
62 - Jeremy Lin (GSW) - Warriors
MISSING PLAYERS... STILL MISSING
Sherron Collins (PG) - Bobcats
Christian Eyenga (SG/SF) - Cavaliers
Manny Harris (SG/SF) - Cavaliers
Samardo Samuels (PF/C) - Cavaliers
Semih Erden (C) - Celtics
Willie Warren (SG) - Clippers
Eugene Jeter (PG) - Kings
Ben Uzoh (PG) - Nets
Gary Forbes (SF) - Nuggets
Lance Stephenson (SG) - Pacers
Solomon Alabi (C) - Raptors
Ishmael Smith (PG) - Rockets
Gary Neal (SG) - Spurs
Matt Janning (SG) - Suns
Gani Lawal (PF) - Suns
Garret Siler (C) - Suns
Jeff Adrien (PF) - Warriors
Hamady N'Diaye (C) - Wizards
VARIOUS ROSTER ERRORS
Sundiata Gaines still on Jazz
Ronald Dupree still on Raptors
Dwayne Jones still on Suns
Coby Karl still on Nuggets (he only signed in Spain A MONTH AGO...)
Melvin Ely still missing from Nuggets roster (thousand bucks says they don't even know he's in the FA pool)
Lester Hudson still missing from Wizards roster
Maurice Ager is still mising from the Wolves roster
Royal Ivey is still missing from Thunder roster... even though he signed a guaranteed contract with the team over the summer. 2K Insider my ass.
PLAYERS GONE AWOL
Allen Iverson (SG/PG)
Sergio Rodriguez (PG) - Actually, he didn't even make it into the 2K10 defaults.
Stephon Marbury, who left for China LAST SEASON, and just signed a THREE YEAR CONTRACT to stay in China for the rest of his professional career, remains in the game.
Brevin Knight and Malik Rose, who retired last season to call Bobcats and Knick games, also remain in the game.
Lindsey Hunter, who retired in the middle of last season to become an assistant coach, he's still here too.
Mark Madsen is a D-League coach, and retired almost 2 years ago now. He's still in the game.
Jerome James... nevermind, it still hurts to talk about it.
The last court Kirk Snyder stepped foot into sentenced him to prison. He's still in the game. Who wants to place bets that he's removed from prison before he's removed from 2K's rosters?
Lynn Greer and Vassilis Spanoulis, who played one season each in the NBA back in 2007 before returning to Europe, they too remain in the game.
Ha-Seung Jin hasn't played in the NBA since 2006. It's been 5 years. He's still in the game.
Jared Jordan, Devon Hardin, and Brandon Wallace have NEVER played a single NBA game in their lives. They're still in the game.
But the second Allen Iverson (a five-time 2K coverboy) signs in Turkey? Gone the next day.
MAKING FUN OF 2K'S INJURIES
My favorite part of the night, reserved for my least favorite part about 2K's rosters (and I'm far from alone in this regard). Time to laugh at the injuries that us common users cannot remove.
YELLOW - Still playable, and still trying to figure out why this is given to players who are NOT playing through their injuries. Give it to guys like Iguodala.
(CHA) Dominic McGuire: Shin Splints (4-6 weeks)
(MIL) Darington Hobson: Bruised Hip (12-14 months) - Um, why isn't he red?
(CHI) Carlos Boozer: Broken Finger (6-8 weeks)
(SAC) Samuel Dalember: Bruised Hip (4-6 weeks)
(NYK) Eddy Curry: Strained Hamstring (6-8 months) - I can't help but laugh at the unintentional accuracy of this one. In reality though, Curry should be healthy in November.
(ORL) Daniel Orton: Sore Knee (8-10 weeks)
(MIN) Jonny Flynn: Bruised Hip (4-6 months) - He sounds like he'll be back in two weeks.
(GSW) Louis Amundson: Broken Finger (4-6 weeks)
RED - Not playable. Oh, and you also can't release them. POINTLESS RESTRICTIONS FTW
(MIL) Michael Redd: Torn ACL (12-14 months) - He's working towards a March return.
(BOS) Kendrick Perkins: Torn MCL (8-10 months) - He'll be back in February, if not January.
(BOS) Delonte West: Suspended (2-4 weeks)
(MIA) Mike Miller: Torn Hand Ligament (1-2 months) - Apparently January is 6 weeks from now.
(UTA) Mehmet Okur: Torn Achilles (8-10 months) - He'll be back in December.
(NYK) Kelenna Azubuike: Torn Patellar Tendon (12-14 months)
(LAL) Andrew Bynum: Arthoscopic Surgery (4-6 Months) - December is a long time from now. I still have half a year to go christmas shopping.
(DAL) Rodrigue Beaubois: Broken Foot (2-4 months) - He'll be back in November.
(DEN) Kenyon Martin: Arthoscopic Surgery (6-8 months) - Shooting for January 1st.
(DEN) Chris Andersen: Torn Patellar Tendon (4-6 months) - Shooting for December 1st.
(IND) Kareem Rush: Suspended (1-2 weeks)
(DET) Terrico White: Broken Foot (8-10 weeks) - OH MY GOD! A RETURN DATE THAT'S FINALLY ACCURATE!
(DET) Jonas Jerebko: Torn Achilles (4-6 months) - SEE ABOVE!
(TOR) Ed Davis: Arthoscopic Surgery (8-10 weeks)
(POR) Greg Oden: Broken Patella (12-14 months) - Fortune telling at it's finest.
(POR) Joel Przybilla: Torn Patellar Tendon (10-12 months) - He is already practicing with the team.
(GSW) Ekpe Udoh: Broken Wrist (6-8 months) - Coming back in January.
(WAS) Josh Howard: Torn ACL (10-12 months) - Coming back in December, if not November.
(FA) Jeff Pendergraph: Torn ACL (10-12 months)
INJURED PLAYERS WHO AREN'T INJURED!
(PHI) Andre Iguodala
(CHA) Kwame Brown: Should be out at least another 2 weeks.
(MIL) Chris Douglas-Roberts: Eye surgery announced date of roster release. 2K gets a break.
(MEM) Marc Gasol
(SAS) Tiago Splitter
I'm sure there's a few others.
The more I see these 2K rosters, the more I am convinced that the 2K Insider is a techie/suit that simply doesn't watch the NBA.
Monday, October 25, 2010
Made my first slider edit.
I finally bit the bullet and adjusted some 2K sliders
-5 Dunk in Traffic
-5 Contact Shot Success
The funny thing is the #1 slider I'd want to change DOESN'T EVEN EXIST! There is not a single slider that affects the post game. Not Offense, not defense, not even LPS.
PHILADELPHIA 76ERS
41-78 2PT
1-12 3PT
24-34 FT
21 Paint FG
DUNKS x3
Holiday: Fastbreak (w/Gerald Wallace trailing behind)
Iguodala: Double screen play, getting a step on Stephen Jackson
Hawes: And 1 after an offensive rebound (clear path).
AND 1's x7
Iguodala: Drive to lane, barely any contact to be honest.
Brand: Shot after an offensive rebound
Brand: Play that started with him posting Augustin. Is it too much to ask for 2K to get the PG to guard the PG? Mismatches happen after picks and screens, not made baskets and rebounds.
Hawes: Dunk after an offensive rebound.
Turner: Layup after an extremely successful play (CPU didn't even try to follow Turner coming off a screen), leading to desperation block attempt that failed.
Speights: Lowpost after an offensive rebound.
Nocioni: Layup after an offensive rebound.
Slider changes seemed to fix the excessive dunking, as only one could be termed "In Traffic" and it was by one of the league's best dunkers. If only there were something that could be done about the post game (like, improving post defense ten-fold), teams would post realistic FG%. It also reduced And 1's but could use another decrease. Four of the seven And 1's occurred after an offensive rebound, which is likely when the CPU is at it's most desperate (not exactly unrealistic). Still, it'd be nice to see more of these roll out.
CHARLOTTE BOBCATS
40-71 2PT
2-11 3PT
25-35 FT
20 Paint FG
DUNKS x4
Jackson: Spin dunk on a fastbreak
Wallace: Putback dunk
Livingston: Fastbreak dunk
D.Brown: Standing dunk after an offensive rebound
AND 1'S x7
Jackson: Hopstep layup draws contact on Hawes who came over to try and block the shot
Jackson: Contested fastbreak shot
Wallace: Low-post on Kapono (what else needs to be said?)
Wallace: Fastbreak layup
Diaw: Fastbreak layup (dish from Augustin)
Diaw: Terrible defense by Brand leads to clear path for Diaw to swoop to hoop (Speights fouls trying for block). Brand is standing next to Diaw instead of blocking his path to the basket. Augustin walks up to Brand and wraps a pass around him to Diaw. Making things worse, Brand also goes for the steal, rather than shifting to block his man's easy path. The defensive AI in this game is STILL atrocious.
Thomas: Post-up on Kapono
The Bobcats didn't have any traffic dunks, and the only one I didn't really care for was Brown's (though I can simply reduce his standing dunk to fix that). Unlike the Sixers, the Bobcats got no fouls off rebounds, though they did draw three on the fastbreak.
Overall the FG% was much lower than previous games, so it's certainly a start. I'm happy with the amount of dunks there are, so continuing to lowering contact success further should help reduce it even further. I'm confident And 1's can be reduced to a suitable number, but am still very concerned about the post-game. With no sliders to affect the post game, the only thing we've got to work with are ratings. I'm hopeful that reducing contact shots will help, because it's just much too efficient. DeSagana Diop had a successful post jumper with the clock running down. That should work maybe one in seven times in real life. Posting up is one of the least efficient forms of scoring in real life (along with Isolating), because it's going 1-on-1 against a defender, yet 2K seems to think that the post is about erasing that defender from the picture.
-5 Dunk in Traffic
-5 Contact Shot Success
The funny thing is the #1 slider I'd want to change DOESN'T EVEN EXIST! There is not a single slider that affects the post game. Not Offense, not defense, not even LPS.
PHILADELPHIA 76ERS
41-78 2PT
1-12 3PT
24-34 FT
21 Paint FG
DUNKS x3
Holiday: Fastbreak (w/Gerald Wallace trailing behind)
Iguodala: Double screen play, getting a step on Stephen Jackson
Hawes: And 1 after an offensive rebound (clear path).
AND 1's x7
Iguodala: Drive to lane, barely any contact to be honest.
Brand: Shot after an offensive rebound
Brand: Play that started with him posting Augustin. Is it too much to ask for 2K to get the PG to guard the PG? Mismatches happen after picks and screens, not made baskets and rebounds.
Hawes: Dunk after an offensive rebound.
Turner: Layup after an extremely successful play (CPU didn't even try to follow Turner coming off a screen), leading to desperation block attempt that failed.
Speights: Lowpost after an offensive rebound.
Nocioni: Layup after an offensive rebound.
Slider changes seemed to fix the excessive dunking, as only one could be termed "In Traffic" and it was by one of the league's best dunkers. If only there were something that could be done about the post game (like, improving post defense ten-fold), teams would post realistic FG%. It also reduced And 1's but could use another decrease. Four of the seven And 1's occurred after an offensive rebound, which is likely when the CPU is at it's most desperate (not exactly unrealistic). Still, it'd be nice to see more of these roll out.
CHARLOTTE BOBCATS
40-71 2PT
2-11 3PT
25-35 FT
20 Paint FG
DUNKS x4
Jackson: Spin dunk on a fastbreak
Wallace: Putback dunk
Livingston: Fastbreak dunk
D.Brown: Standing dunk after an offensive rebound
AND 1'S x7
Jackson: Hopstep layup draws contact on Hawes who came over to try and block the shot
Jackson: Contested fastbreak shot
Wallace: Low-post on Kapono (what else needs to be said?)
Wallace: Fastbreak layup
Diaw: Fastbreak layup (dish from Augustin)
Diaw: Terrible defense by Brand leads to clear path for Diaw to swoop to hoop (Speights fouls trying for block). Brand is standing next to Diaw instead of blocking his path to the basket. Augustin walks up to Brand and wraps a pass around him to Diaw. Making things worse, Brand also goes for the steal, rather than shifting to block his man's easy path. The defensive AI in this game is STILL atrocious.
Thomas: Post-up on Kapono
The Bobcats didn't have any traffic dunks, and the only one I didn't really care for was Brown's (though I can simply reduce his standing dunk to fix that). Unlike the Sixers, the Bobcats got no fouls off rebounds, though they did draw three on the fastbreak.
Overall the FG% was much lower than previous games, so it's certainly a start. I'm happy with the amount of dunks there are, so continuing to lowering contact success further should help reduce it even further. I'm confident And 1's can be reduced to a suitable number, but am still very concerned about the post-game. With no sliders to affect the post game, the only thing we've got to work with are ratings. I'm hopeful that reducing contact shots will help, because it's just much too efficient. DeSagana Diop had a successful post jumper with the clock running down. That should work maybe one in seven times in real life. Posting up is one of the least efficient forms of scoring in real life (along with Isolating), because it's going 1-on-1 against a defender, yet 2K seems to think that the post is about erasing that defender from the picture.
Friday, October 22, 2010
These rosters suck, and hard fouls are meaningless
I ran a sim and the Knicks had 10 "And 1" plays. I got so pissed off I decided to raise every player's Hard Foul tendency to 100 and run another sim. The Knicks again had 10 "And 1" plays. It has zero effect, aside from both teams shooting about 10 more FTs that game.
1ST QUARTER
10:48 - Wilson Chandler
A clearout for Chandler, who has Spencer Hawes on him. Teardrop and the foul.
8:24 - Amare Stoudemire
Elton Brand tries to draw a charge on an Amare dunk. Big mistake.
41.7 - Wilson Chandler
Chandler brings the ball up, but defense never picks him up until he's at the rim taking a layup (foul on Nocioni).
2ND QUARTER
1:18 - Amare Stoudemire
Amare isolates on Spencer Hawes. You can figure out the rest.
Things are going kinda smoothly now, aren't they? Only 4 "And 1's" and two belong to Amare. That's livable, right?
3RD QUARTER
7:58 - Timofey Mozgov
Amare lobs an inbound pass from mid-court to Mozgov deep in the post. He draws the foul on Speights who offered little post resistance.
3:50 - Ronny Turiaf
Turiaf drives on Brand, spins, and draws a bump from Thaddeus Young.
2:59 - Ronny Turiaf
Turiaf drives on Brand again, drawing a bump, and making a shot adjustment on his layup.
1:49 - Ronny Turiaf
Turiaf posting up on Young, draws the foul on Brand's help defense.
34.8 - Ronny Turiaf
Amare catches underneath, dishes to Turiaf, and draws a foul on Hawes who goes for the block.
4TH QUARTER
4:38 - Toney Douglas
Douglas brings the ball up, the defense never really puts a body on him until he's at the rim taking a layup (foul on Turner).
The time on those shots matters just as much as the player who hit them. Turiaf had four straight "And 1" plays. That is ABSURD. Almost as abusrd as the Sixers having 12 of their own "And 1" plays, giving us a game total of 22. This is a last straw of sorts for me.
I restarted my roster because I'd heard the gameplay had improved with this "roster patch", but the truth is it has not. Yes, 3pt% has improved, and players no longer move like their feet are in the mud, but players get to the rim for layups and dunks far too easily now. Teams are shooting 60% from the field and half of their points are coming in the paint.
23 of PHI's 57 FGM were in the paint, and 12 were "And 1".
34 of NY's 52 FGM were in the paint, and 10 were "And 1".
This is NBA 2K10 with pretty jumpers and half-assed Jordan teams that didn't have to be downloaded off 2K Share. It seems like the deeper we go, the worse things become.
For the first time in eight years... I might have to make a slider set. This game is simply not playable from a simulation standpoint.
1ST QUARTER
10:48 - Wilson Chandler
A clearout for Chandler, who has Spencer Hawes on him. Teardrop and the foul.
8:24 - Amare Stoudemire
Elton Brand tries to draw a charge on an Amare dunk. Big mistake.
41.7 - Wilson Chandler
Chandler brings the ball up, but defense never picks him up until he's at the rim taking a layup (foul on Nocioni).
2ND QUARTER
1:18 - Amare Stoudemire
Amare isolates on Spencer Hawes. You can figure out the rest.
Things are going kinda smoothly now, aren't they? Only 4 "And 1's" and two belong to Amare. That's livable, right?
3RD QUARTER
7:58 - Timofey Mozgov
Amare lobs an inbound pass from mid-court to Mozgov deep in the post. He draws the foul on Speights who offered little post resistance.
3:50 - Ronny Turiaf
Turiaf drives on Brand, spins, and draws a bump from Thaddeus Young.
2:59 - Ronny Turiaf
Turiaf drives on Brand again, drawing a bump, and making a shot adjustment on his layup.
1:49 - Ronny Turiaf
Turiaf posting up on Young, draws the foul on Brand's help defense.
34.8 - Ronny Turiaf
Amare catches underneath, dishes to Turiaf, and draws a foul on Hawes who goes for the block.
4TH QUARTER
4:38 - Toney Douglas
Douglas brings the ball up, the defense never really puts a body on him until he's at the rim taking a layup (foul on Turner).
The time on those shots matters just as much as the player who hit them. Turiaf had four straight "And 1" plays. That is ABSURD. Almost as abusrd as the Sixers having 12 of their own "And 1" plays, giving us a game total of 22. This is a last straw of sorts for me.
I restarted my roster because I'd heard the gameplay had improved with this "roster patch", but the truth is it has not. Yes, 3pt% has improved, and players no longer move like their feet are in the mud, but players get to the rim for layups and dunks far too easily now. Teams are shooting 60% from the field and half of their points are coming in the paint.
23 of PHI's 57 FGM were in the paint, and 12 were "And 1".
34 of NY's 52 FGM were in the paint, and 10 were "And 1".
This is NBA 2K10 with pretty jumpers and half-assed Jordan teams that didn't have to be downloaded off 2K Share. It seems like the deeper we go, the worse things become.
For the first time in eight years... I might have to make a slider set. This game is simply not playable from a simulation standpoint.
Thursday, October 21, 2010
Darius Songaila & the 2K Insider
I discovered some rating changes to Darius Songaila while making my Sixers edits.
65 Overall (+3) - This is where I had it.
80 Close (-9) - This is where I had it.
81 FT (-11) - His season%; I have him at 85, his career% (3 years prior: 89, 92, 85).
67 LPS (+13) - I had 64.
49 OffReb (-5) - This is where I had it.
56 DefReb (+9) - This is where I had it.
65 OffPost (+8) - I had 67. Basically a switch of my LPS/OffPost, no biggie.
63 DefPost (+8) - I still have 55
57 DefAwr (+17) - I had 55.
74 Stamina (+4) - I have 77.
68 Hustle (+4) - I still have 64.
Now, before I begin... NO, I AM NOT ACCUSING 2K OF COPYING ME. It is actually the other way around.
You see, last season I cracked 2K's rating scales. It's only natural for their updated ratings to reflect my own since we are both using the same source material and scale.
However, this essentially proves what I have been saying for quite some time - that 2K applies this scale SELECTIVELY.
ORB% & OffReb
12.0% Tyson Chandler (71) - Career 12.8%
11.4% Pau Gasol (95) - Career 8.8%
6.3% Troy Murphy (63)
4.8% Darius Songaila (49)
3.1% Dirk Nowitzki (52)
DRB% & DefReb
28.5% Troy Murphy (89) - Lead league in 2009 w/ 32.0%
22.7% Pau Gasol (88)
21.0% Tyson Chandler (70)
20.1% Dirk Nowitzki (86)
14.7% Darius Songaila (56)
These values are all over the place! Gasol and Dirk have mega-inflated ratings (due to their name, rather than their game), while Tyson Chandler (who is a rebound/defense role player) totally gets the shaft here.
And yet as Darius Songaila shows us... 2K Sports knows EXACTLY what to rate these players. They merely CHOOSE not to.
Of course, I'm sure you'd like harder evidence than my Songaila numbers being identical (hey, maybe they DID steal them, or maybe it's just a coincidence!). Fine. Let's go right to the tippy top. COVER BOY.
Michael Jordan ORB% & DRB%
1986: 53 & 42
1990: 51 & 60
1991: 51 & 60
1992: 48 & 55
1995: 46 & 62
1996: 54 & 57
1997: 45 & 51
1998: 48 & 48
Jordan's rebound ratings are one of his few ratings that actually fluctuate from year to year. That's because they went straight off his statistical output.
Michael Jordan OffReb & DefReb
1986: 5.6 & 10.7
1990: 5.3 & 15.6
1991: 4.6 & 14.3
1992: 3.5 & 15.3
1995: 4.4 & 16.2
1996: 5.6 & 14.9
1997: 4.2 & 13.2
1998: 4.7 & 12.5
Not the easiest to read, so let's dumb it down
ORB%
5.6 = 54 (1996)
5.6 = 53 (1986)
5.3 = 51 (1990)
4.8 = 49 (Darius Songaila)
4.7 = 48 (1998)
4.6 = 51 (1991)
4.4 = 46 (1995)
4.2 = 45 (1997)
3.5 = 48 (1992)
With the exception of two seasons, these are all following a scale. I threw in Mr. Songaila for good measure - he fits like a glove.
DRB%
16.2 = 62 (1995)
15.6 = 60 (1990)
15.3 = 55 (1992)
14.9 = 57 (1996)
14.7 = 56 (Darius Songaila)
14.3 = 60 (1991)
13.2 = 51 (1997)
12.5 = 48 (1998)
10.7 = 42 (1986)
As with offensive rebounding, there are two seasons where Jordan isn't following scale, one of which he is actually underrated (1992), and the other being 1991 again. As with before, Songaila fits like a glove. 2K Sports knows EXACTLY what they are doing regarding rebound ratings.
Personally, I think if the scale is good enough for MICHAEL JORDAN, then it should be good enough for Dirk Nowitzki and Pau Gasol (not to mention every other player in the NBA).
Maybe that's just me. It's certainly not 2K.
65 Overall (+3) - This is where I had it.
80 Close (-9) - This is where I had it.
81 FT (-11) - His season%; I have him at 85, his career% (3 years prior: 89, 92, 85).
67 LPS (+13) - I had 64.
49 OffReb (-5) - This is where I had it.
56 DefReb (+9) - This is where I had it.
65 OffPost (+8) - I had 67. Basically a switch of my LPS/OffPost, no biggie.
63 DefPost (+8) - I still have 55
57 DefAwr (+17) - I had 55.
74 Stamina (+4) - I have 77.
68 Hustle (+4) - I still have 64.
Now, before I begin... NO, I AM NOT ACCUSING 2K OF COPYING ME. It is actually the other way around.
You see, last season I cracked 2K's rating scales. It's only natural for their updated ratings to reflect my own since we are both using the same source material and scale.
However, this essentially proves what I have been saying for quite some time - that 2K applies this scale SELECTIVELY.
ORB% & OffReb
12.0% Tyson Chandler (71) - Career 12.8%
11.4% Pau Gasol (95) - Career 8.8%
6.3% Troy Murphy (63)
4.8% Darius Songaila (49)
3.1% Dirk Nowitzki (52)
DRB% & DefReb
28.5% Troy Murphy (89) - Lead league in 2009 w/ 32.0%
22.7% Pau Gasol (88)
21.0% Tyson Chandler (70)
20.1% Dirk Nowitzki (86)
14.7% Darius Songaila (56)
These values are all over the place! Gasol and Dirk have mega-inflated ratings (due to their name, rather than their game), while Tyson Chandler (who is a rebound/defense role player) totally gets the shaft here.
And yet as Darius Songaila shows us... 2K Sports knows EXACTLY what to rate these players. They merely CHOOSE not to.
Of course, I'm sure you'd like harder evidence than my Songaila numbers being identical (hey, maybe they DID steal them, or maybe it's just a coincidence!). Fine. Let's go right to the tippy top. COVER BOY.
Michael Jordan ORB% & DRB%
1986: 53 & 42
1990: 51 & 60
1991: 51 & 60
1992: 48 & 55
1995: 46 & 62
1996: 54 & 57
1997: 45 & 51
1998: 48 & 48
Jordan's rebound ratings are one of his few ratings that actually fluctuate from year to year. That's because they went straight off his statistical output.
Michael Jordan OffReb & DefReb
1986: 5.6 & 10.7
1990: 5.3 & 15.6
1991: 4.6 & 14.3
1992: 3.5 & 15.3
1995: 4.4 & 16.2
1996: 5.6 & 14.9
1997: 4.2 & 13.2
1998: 4.7 & 12.5
Not the easiest to read, so let's dumb it down
ORB%
5.6 = 54 (1996)
5.6 = 53 (1986)
5.3 = 51 (1990)
4.8 = 49 (Darius Songaila)
4.7 = 48 (1998)
4.6 = 51 (1991)
4.4 = 46 (1995)
4.2 = 45 (1997)
3.5 = 48 (1992)
With the exception of two seasons, these are all following a scale. I threw in Mr. Songaila for good measure - he fits like a glove.
DRB%
16.2 = 62 (1995)
15.6 = 60 (1990)
15.3 = 55 (1992)
14.9 = 57 (1996)
14.7 = 56 (Darius Songaila)
14.3 = 60 (1991)
13.2 = 51 (1997)
12.5 = 48 (1998)
10.7 = 42 (1986)
As with offensive rebounding, there are two seasons where Jordan isn't following scale, one of which he is actually underrated (1992), and the other being 1991 again. As with before, Songaila fits like a glove. 2K Sports knows EXACTLY what they are doing regarding rebound ratings.
Personally, I think if the scale is good enough for MICHAEL JORDAN, then it should be good enough for Dirk Nowitzki and Pau Gasol (not to mention every other player in the NBA).
Maybe that's just me. It's certainly not 2K.
Wednesday, October 20, 2010
NBA 2K11 Touch Tendency List
I took the time to jot down the controversial "Touches" tendency for all NBA teams in 2K11. Putting them in list format, I have a much clearer vision of what exactly is wrong with them.
SIXERS
Turner 70
Speights 67
Hawes 65
Iguodala 56
Brackins 55
Brand 48
Williams 44
Nocioni 43
Songaila 43
Battie 43
Holiday 37
Young 36
Kapono 33
Quinn 20
Meeks 10
BOBCATS
Jackson 74
Brown 71
Thomas 67
Wallace 65
Livingston 63
Diaw 57
Diop 46
Mohammed 45
McGuire 34
Najera 31
Augustin 26
Brown 25
Henderson 16
Carroll 10
BUCKS
Bogut 81
Maggette 71
Gooden 62
Redd 58
Jennings 49
Dooling 45
Boykins 41
Salmons 40
Skinner 39
Ilyasova 30
Delfino 29
Mbah a Moute 27
Douglas-Roberts 26
Sanders 25
Brockman 19
BULLS
Boozer 89
Rose 51
Deng 49
Noah 46
Gibson 32
Thomas 31
Brewer 30
Johnson 30
Watson 24
Bogans 24
Korver 21
Weaver 10
Lucas 10
Scalabrine 10
CAVALIERS
Jamison 86
Graham 48
Powe 45
M. Wiliams 43
Hollins 40
Varejao 35
Moon 34
Sessions 33
Hickson 29
Parker 23
Gibson 18
J. Williams 13
CELTICS
Garnett 89
S. O'Neal 82
J. O'Neal 74
Pierce 66
Davis 59
Perkins 56
Robinson 50
Rondo 41
Daniels 38
Allen 35
West 30
Bradley 30
Wafer 10
CLIPPERS
Kaman 84
Griffin 70
Davis 67
Smith 53
Foye 46
Bledsoe 45
Gordon 42
Gomes 42
Warren 42
Butler 37
Aminu 36
Jordan 36
Collins 32
Cook 10
GRIZZLIES
Randolph 84
Haddadi 71
Gasol 70
Arthur 64
Gay 59
Young 43
Henry 42
Conley 41
Allen 40
Mayo 39
Vasquez 29
Carroll 22
Thabeet 22
Law 10
HAWKS
Johnson 83
Smith 75
Horford 66
Collins 56
Ja. Crawford 41
Williams 35
Jo. Crawford 33
Powell 33
Thomas 30
Bibby 28
Pachulia 25
Evans 10
Teague 10
HEAT
James 99
Bosh 97
Wade 90
Ilgauskas 62
Magloire 48
Beverley 45
Howard 40
Miller 34
Arroyo 33
Haslem 31
House 31
Chalmers 30
Jones 25
Randolph 20
Anthony 15
HORNETS
West 84
Okafor 55
Gray 54
Paul 50
Pondexter 49
Alexander 42
Smith 40
Ariza 34
Thornton 33
Green 29
Belinelli 29
Stojakovic 28
Mbenga 11
Mensah-Bonsu 10
JAZZ
Jefferson 83
Millsap 67
Okur 59
Williams 53
Elson 43
Kirilenko 40
Price 35
Bell 29
Watson 28
Gaines 28
Hayward 28
KINGS
Landry 76
Thompson 62
Cousins 58
Evans 52
Head 35
Dalembert 33
Casspi 32
Udrih 32
Wright 30
Greene 30
Garcia 28
Whiteside 26
Jackson 10
KNICKS
Stoudemire 81
Ewing 78
Turiaf 55
Randolph 53
Douglas 47
Felton 46
Azubuike 42
Chandler 38
Mason 36
Gallinari 35
Walker 33
Curry 13
Mozgov 12
Rautins 10
Williams 10
LAKERS
Bryant 90
Gasol 85
Bynum 77
Odom 43
Artest 43
Walton 38
Ratliff 38
Brown 33
Barnes 31
Vujacic 29
Blake 27
Fisher 23
MAGIC
Howard 88
Carter 74
Bass 68
Lewis 48
Orton 48
Nelson 47
Allen 40
Richardson 38
Duhon 35
Anderson 32
Redick 30
Williams 26
Pietrus 25
Gortat 23
MAVERICKS
Nowitzki 99
Butler 45
Terry 45
Marion 43
Haywood 40
Kidd 35
Jones 33
Mahinmi 30
Barea 29
Cardinal 28
Chandler 26
Beaubois 20
Stevenson 19
Novak 16
Ajinca 13
NETS
Lopez 82
Favors 59
Smith 55
Harris 48
Outlaw 47
James 43
Farmar 40
Murphy 38
Morrow 33
Williams 32
Humphries 31
Graham 26
Ross 22
Petro 16
NUGGETS
Anthony 99
Nene 78
Harrington 63
Billups 59
Williams 59
Lawson 35
Martin 34
Smith 34
Carter 23
Afflalo 22
Andersen 12
Balkman 10
Ely 10
PACERS
Hibbert 66
Granger 51
Hansbrough 50
Ford 49
Collison 48
Jones 46
Jones 44
Foster 43
Price 38
Posey 35
George 34
Dunleavy 28
Rush 19
McRoberts 12
PISTONS
Prince 79
Villanueva 71
McGrady 63
Hamilton 62
Stuckey 59
Monroe 59
Wilcox 57
Bynum 46
Gordon 44
Maxiell 41
Summer 35
Wallace 34
Jerebko 25
Daye 23
RAPTORS
Bargnani 70
Andersen 47
Jack 42
Evans 40
Davis 33
Calderon 30
Weems 26
Barbosa 24
Wright 22
Johnson 13
DeRozan 10
Dorsey 10
Kleiza 10
Banks 10
ROCKETS
Yao 88
Scola 70
Patterson 57
Brooks 50
Miller 49
Hill 48
Lowry 38
Martin 31
Jeffries 31
Budinger 29
Hayes 29
Lee 23
Battier 19
Taylor 10
SPURS
Duncan 85
Ginobili 49
McDyess 48
Splitter 46
Parker 45
Jefferson 42
Blair 41
Simmons 37
Hill 34
Gee 32
Anderson 29
Bonner 23
Temple 20
SUNS
Turkoglu 62
Nash 52
Richardson 44
Warrick 43
Lopez 40
Childress 38
Hill 37
Dragic 30
Frye 28
Dudley 22
Clark 11
THUNDER
Durant 85
Westbrook 52
White 48
Green 42
Krstic 38
Mullens 38
Maynor 33
Collison 31
Cook 29
Ibaka 27
Sefolosha 23
Aldrich 22
Harden 21
Peterson 17
Ivey 10
T'WOLVES
Love 70
Pekovic 70
Beasley 59
Johnson 53
Milicic 51
Flynn 46
Hayward 42
Ridnour 39
Brewer 38
Webster 31
Ellington 29
Koufos 25
Tolliver 23
Telfair 22
BLAZERS
Aldridge 80
Roy 70
Miller 63
Oden 56
Bayless 47
Fernandez 35
Matthews 31
Mills 28
Babbitt 28
Pendergraph 26
Batum 24
Camby 23
Przybilla 22
Williams 10
Cunningham 10
WARRIORS
Ellis 57
Lee 57
Williams 42
Curry 40
Biedrins 40
Udoh 37
Bell 32
Amundson 32
D. Wright 30
Radmanovic 27
B. Wright 21
Gadzuric 20
Carney 20
WIZARDS
Blatche 78
Howard 76
Thornton 68
Yi 61
McGee 56
Wall 52
Booker 52
Arenas 50
Armstrong 43
Young 37
Martin 33
Seraphin 27
Hinrich 26
Hudson 13
Morrison 10
TOP PLAYERS (80+)
LeBron 99
Melo 99
Dirk 99
Bosh 97
Wade 90
Kobe 90
Garnett 89
Boozer 89
Yao 88
Howard 88
Jamison 86
Durant 85
Duncan 85
Gasol 85
Kaman 84
Randolph 84
West 84
Johnson 83
Jefferson 83
Shaq 82
Lopez 82
Bogut 81
Amare 81
Aldridge 80
POINT DISTRIBUTION
90-99: 6
80-89: 18
70-79: 23 (Two of these are Ewing Jr and Haddadi)
60-69: 22
50-59: 40
40-49: 84
30-39: 89
20-29: 77
10-19: 44
Houston, we have a problem. There are 69 players with Touch 60-99 vs 250 players with Touch 20-49. There is simply too much separation from a few select players and everyone else, which is leading to the shot imbalances.
This is not to say just lowering the higher ups is a blanket solution. The problem seems to be a little more widespread and specific than that... best illustrated by breaking it down by positions.
POINT GUARD (Average Starter: 45)
63 Andre Miller
59 Chauncey Billups
53 Deron Williams
52 Steve Nash
52 Russell Westbrook
52 John Wall
51 Derrick Rose
50 Aaron Brooks
50 Gilbert Arenas
50 Nate Robinson
48 Darren Collison
48 Tony Parker
41 Rajon Rondo
40 Stephen Curry
35 Jason Kidd
SHOOTING GUARD (Average Starter: 46)
90 Kobe Bryant
90 Dwyane Wade
83 Joe Johnson
74 Stephen Jackson
74 Vince Carter
70 Brandon Roy
70 Evan Turner
62 Richard Hamilton
57 Monta Ellis
52 Tyreke Evans
49 Manu Ginobili
39 O.J. Mayo
35 Ray Allen
31 Kevin Martin
27 Allen Iverson
27 Leandro Barbosa
SMALL FORWARD (Average Starter: 48)
99 LeBron James
99 Carmelo Anthony
85 Kevin Durant
79 Tayshaun Prince
75 Josh Howard
71 Corey Maggette
66 Paul Pierce
65 Gerald Wallace
62 Hedo Turkoglu
59 Rudy Gay
56 Andre Iguodala
51 Danny Granger
48 Rashard Lewis
45 Caron Butler
POWER FORWARD (Average Starter: 63)
99 Dirk Nowitzki
97 Chris Bosh
89 Kevin Garnett
89 Carlos Boozer
86 Antawn Jamison
85 Pau Gasol
85 Tim Duncan
84 David West
84 Zach Randolph
81 Amare Stoudemire
80 LaMarcus Aldridge
78 Andray Blatche
76 Carl Landry
75 Josh Smith
70 Kevin Love
70 Luis Scola
68 Brandon Bass
67 Paul Millsap
59 Michael Beasley
57 David Lee
CENTER (Average Starter: 58)
88 Dwight Howard
88 Yao Ming
84 Chris Kaman
83 Al Jefferson
82 Shaquille O'Neal
82 Brook Lopez
81 Andrew Bogut
77 Andrew Bynum
74 Jermaine O'Neal
70 Andrea Bargnani
70 Nikola Pekovic
70 Marc Gasl
66 Al Horford
66 Roy Hibbert
65 Spencer Hawes
51 Darko Milicic
40 Andris Biedrins
34 Ben Wallace
PGs are all extremely low, whereas PF/C are all extremely high. I understand 2K was trying to get more post play (and thus a "sim" game), but gone are the days of the 80s and 90s when post players dominated the league. It's pretty clear now that positions affected their rating scale. Nevermind that we've got discrepancies like Roy Hibbert being Indiana's go-to guy instead of Danny Granger. We've got Spencer Hawes getting more plays than Andre Iguodala; Darko Milicic getting as many plays as Tyreke Evans; Andris Biedrins and Ben Wallace getting more plays than Kevin Martin,
I heard one of my detractors say all that's needed is some edits to key players... that would honestly depend on your definition of "some", because to me, it looks like more than half of the league is off by at least 10 points. Which is why I was "testing" different values in the first place.
SIXERS
Turner 70
Speights 67
Hawes 65
Iguodala 56
Brackins 55
Brand 48
Williams 44
Nocioni 43
Songaila 43
Battie 43
Holiday 37
Young 36
Kapono 33
Quinn 20
Meeks 10
BOBCATS
Jackson 74
Brown 71
Thomas 67
Wallace 65
Livingston 63
Diaw 57
Diop 46
Mohammed 45
McGuire 34
Najera 31
Augustin 26
Brown 25
Henderson 16
Carroll 10
BUCKS
Bogut 81
Maggette 71
Gooden 62
Redd 58
Jennings 49
Dooling 45
Boykins 41
Salmons 40
Skinner 39
Ilyasova 30
Delfino 29
Mbah a Moute 27
Douglas-Roberts 26
Sanders 25
Brockman 19
BULLS
Boozer 89
Rose 51
Deng 49
Noah 46
Gibson 32
Thomas 31
Brewer 30
Johnson 30
Watson 24
Bogans 24
Korver 21
Weaver 10
Lucas 10
Scalabrine 10
CAVALIERS
Jamison 86
Graham 48
Powe 45
M. Wiliams 43
Hollins 40
Varejao 35
Moon 34
Sessions 33
Hickson 29
Parker 23
Gibson 18
J. Williams 13
CELTICS
Garnett 89
S. O'Neal 82
J. O'Neal 74
Pierce 66
Davis 59
Perkins 56
Robinson 50
Rondo 41
Daniels 38
Allen 35
West 30
Bradley 30
Wafer 10
CLIPPERS
Kaman 84
Griffin 70
Davis 67
Smith 53
Foye 46
Bledsoe 45
Gordon 42
Gomes 42
Warren 42
Butler 37
Aminu 36
Jordan 36
Collins 32
Cook 10
GRIZZLIES
Randolph 84
Haddadi 71
Gasol 70
Arthur 64
Gay 59
Young 43
Henry 42
Conley 41
Allen 40
Mayo 39
Vasquez 29
Carroll 22
Thabeet 22
Law 10
HAWKS
Johnson 83
Smith 75
Horford 66
Collins 56
Ja. Crawford 41
Williams 35
Jo. Crawford 33
Powell 33
Thomas 30
Bibby 28
Pachulia 25
Evans 10
Teague 10
HEAT
James 99
Bosh 97
Wade 90
Ilgauskas 62
Magloire 48
Beverley 45
Howard 40
Miller 34
Arroyo 33
Haslem 31
House 31
Chalmers 30
Jones 25
Randolph 20
Anthony 15
HORNETS
West 84
Okafor 55
Gray 54
Paul 50
Pondexter 49
Alexander 42
Smith 40
Ariza 34
Thornton 33
Green 29
Belinelli 29
Stojakovic 28
Mbenga 11
Mensah-Bonsu 10
JAZZ
Jefferson 83
Millsap 67
Okur 59
Williams 53
Elson 43
Kirilenko 40
Price 35
Bell 29
Watson 28
Gaines 28
Hayward 28
KINGS
Landry 76
Thompson 62
Cousins 58
Evans 52
Head 35
Dalembert 33
Casspi 32
Udrih 32
Wright 30
Greene 30
Garcia 28
Whiteside 26
Jackson 10
KNICKS
Stoudemire 81
Ewing 78
Turiaf 55
Randolph 53
Douglas 47
Felton 46
Azubuike 42
Chandler 38
Mason 36
Gallinari 35
Walker 33
Curry 13
Mozgov 12
Rautins 10
Williams 10
LAKERS
Bryant 90
Gasol 85
Bynum 77
Odom 43
Artest 43
Walton 38
Ratliff 38
Brown 33
Barnes 31
Vujacic 29
Blake 27
Fisher 23
MAGIC
Howard 88
Carter 74
Bass 68
Lewis 48
Orton 48
Nelson 47
Allen 40
Richardson 38
Duhon 35
Anderson 32
Redick 30
Williams 26
Pietrus 25
Gortat 23
MAVERICKS
Nowitzki 99
Butler 45
Terry 45
Marion 43
Haywood 40
Kidd 35
Jones 33
Mahinmi 30
Barea 29
Cardinal 28
Chandler 26
Beaubois 20
Stevenson 19
Novak 16
Ajinca 13
NETS
Lopez 82
Favors 59
Smith 55
Harris 48
Outlaw 47
James 43
Farmar 40
Murphy 38
Morrow 33
Williams 32
Humphries 31
Graham 26
Ross 22
Petro 16
NUGGETS
Anthony 99
Nene 78
Harrington 63
Billups 59
Williams 59
Lawson 35
Martin 34
Smith 34
Carter 23
Afflalo 22
Andersen 12
Balkman 10
Ely 10
PACERS
Hibbert 66
Granger 51
Hansbrough 50
Ford 49
Collison 48
Jones 46
Jones 44
Foster 43
Price 38
Posey 35
George 34
Dunleavy 28
Rush 19
McRoberts 12
PISTONS
Prince 79
Villanueva 71
McGrady 63
Hamilton 62
Stuckey 59
Monroe 59
Wilcox 57
Bynum 46
Gordon 44
Maxiell 41
Summer 35
Wallace 34
Jerebko 25
Daye 23
RAPTORS
Bargnani 70
Andersen 47
Jack 42
Evans 40
Davis 33
Calderon 30
Weems 26
Barbosa 24
Wright 22
Johnson 13
DeRozan 10
Dorsey 10
Kleiza 10
Banks 10
ROCKETS
Yao 88
Scola 70
Patterson 57
Brooks 50
Miller 49
Hill 48
Lowry 38
Martin 31
Jeffries 31
Budinger 29
Hayes 29
Lee 23
Battier 19
Taylor 10
SPURS
Duncan 85
Ginobili 49
McDyess 48
Splitter 46
Parker 45
Jefferson 42
Blair 41
Simmons 37
Hill 34
Gee 32
Anderson 29
Bonner 23
Temple 20
SUNS
Turkoglu 62
Nash 52
Richardson 44
Warrick 43
Lopez 40
Childress 38
Hill 37
Dragic 30
Frye 28
Dudley 22
Clark 11
THUNDER
Durant 85
Westbrook 52
White 48
Green 42
Krstic 38
Mullens 38
Maynor 33
Collison 31
Cook 29
Ibaka 27
Sefolosha 23
Aldrich 22
Harden 21
Peterson 17
Ivey 10
T'WOLVES
Love 70
Pekovic 70
Beasley 59
Johnson 53
Milicic 51
Flynn 46
Hayward 42
Ridnour 39
Brewer 38
Webster 31
Ellington 29
Koufos 25
Tolliver 23
Telfair 22
BLAZERS
Aldridge 80
Roy 70
Miller 63
Oden 56
Bayless 47
Fernandez 35
Matthews 31
Mills 28
Babbitt 28
Pendergraph 26
Batum 24
Camby 23
Przybilla 22
Williams 10
Cunningham 10
WARRIORS
Ellis 57
Lee 57
Williams 42
Curry 40
Biedrins 40
Udoh 37
Bell 32
Amundson 32
D. Wright 30
Radmanovic 27
B. Wright 21
Gadzuric 20
Carney 20
WIZARDS
Blatche 78
Howard 76
Thornton 68
Yi 61
McGee 56
Wall 52
Booker 52
Arenas 50
Armstrong 43
Young 37
Martin 33
Seraphin 27
Hinrich 26
Hudson 13
Morrison 10
TOP PLAYERS (80+)
LeBron 99
Melo 99
Dirk 99
Bosh 97
Wade 90
Kobe 90
Garnett 89
Boozer 89
Yao 88
Howard 88
Jamison 86
Durant 85
Duncan 85
Gasol 85
Kaman 84
Randolph 84
West 84
Johnson 83
Jefferson 83
Shaq 82
Lopez 82
Bogut 81
Amare 81
Aldridge 80
POINT DISTRIBUTION
90-99: 6
80-89: 18
70-79: 23 (Two of these are Ewing Jr and Haddadi)
60-69: 22
50-59: 40
40-49: 84
30-39: 89
20-29: 77
10-19: 44
Houston, we have a problem. There are 69 players with Touch 60-99 vs 250 players with Touch 20-49. There is simply too much separation from a few select players and everyone else, which is leading to the shot imbalances.
This is not to say just lowering the higher ups is a blanket solution. The problem seems to be a little more widespread and specific than that... best illustrated by breaking it down by positions.
POINT GUARD (Average Starter: 45)
63 Andre Miller
59 Chauncey Billups
53 Deron Williams
52 Steve Nash
52 Russell Westbrook
52 John Wall
51 Derrick Rose
50 Aaron Brooks
50 Gilbert Arenas
50 Nate Robinson
48 Darren Collison
48 Tony Parker
41 Rajon Rondo
40 Stephen Curry
35 Jason Kidd
SHOOTING GUARD (Average Starter: 46)
90 Kobe Bryant
90 Dwyane Wade
83 Joe Johnson
74 Stephen Jackson
74 Vince Carter
70 Brandon Roy
70 Evan Turner
62 Richard Hamilton
57 Monta Ellis
52 Tyreke Evans
49 Manu Ginobili
39 O.J. Mayo
35 Ray Allen
31 Kevin Martin
27 Allen Iverson
27 Leandro Barbosa
SMALL FORWARD (Average Starter: 48)
99 LeBron James
99 Carmelo Anthony
85 Kevin Durant
79 Tayshaun Prince
75 Josh Howard
71 Corey Maggette
66 Paul Pierce
65 Gerald Wallace
62 Hedo Turkoglu
59 Rudy Gay
56 Andre Iguodala
51 Danny Granger
48 Rashard Lewis
45 Caron Butler
POWER FORWARD (Average Starter: 63)
99 Dirk Nowitzki
97 Chris Bosh
89 Kevin Garnett
89 Carlos Boozer
86 Antawn Jamison
85 Pau Gasol
85 Tim Duncan
84 David West
84 Zach Randolph
81 Amare Stoudemire
80 LaMarcus Aldridge
78 Andray Blatche
76 Carl Landry
75 Josh Smith
70 Kevin Love
70 Luis Scola
68 Brandon Bass
67 Paul Millsap
59 Michael Beasley
57 David Lee
CENTER (Average Starter: 58)
88 Dwight Howard
88 Yao Ming
84 Chris Kaman
83 Al Jefferson
82 Shaquille O'Neal
82 Brook Lopez
81 Andrew Bogut
77 Andrew Bynum
74 Jermaine O'Neal
70 Andrea Bargnani
70 Nikola Pekovic
70 Marc Gasl
66 Al Horford
66 Roy Hibbert
65 Spencer Hawes
51 Darko Milicic
40 Andris Biedrins
34 Ben Wallace
PGs are all extremely low, whereas PF/C are all extremely high. I understand 2K was trying to get more post play (and thus a "sim" game), but gone are the days of the 80s and 90s when post players dominated the league. It's pretty clear now that positions affected their rating scale. Nevermind that we've got discrepancies like Roy Hibbert being Indiana's go-to guy instead of Danny Granger. We've got Spencer Hawes getting more plays than Andre Iguodala; Darko Milicic getting as many plays as Tyreke Evans; Andris Biedrins and Ben Wallace getting more plays than Kevin Martin,
I heard one of my detractors say all that's needed is some edits to key players... that would honestly depend on your definition of "some", because to me, it looks like more than half of the league is off by at least 10 points. Which is why I was "testing" different values in the first place.
Tuesday, October 19, 2010
UGH, why dunks, WHY?
Edited ratings/tendencies (except for touches) for the Lakers and ran a sim against the Knicks.
The Knicks did something they never did against my un-edited Nets team - attack the rim with ferocity.
RAYMOND FELTON
The Line: 12 points, 12 assists, 3 turnovers (3-9 FG, 0-3 3PT, 6-7 FT)
What Happened: All three of Felton's baskets were "And One" layups.
WILSON CHANDLER
The Line: 17 points (5-8 FG, 0-0 3PT, 7-7 FT)
What Happened: Chandler had an "And One" dunk that rattled in. He obviously got 7 FTA from attacking the rim a lot. I don't have too much of a problem though, because the rest of his shots were Isolation jumpers.
DANILO GALLINARI
The Line: 13 points (4-9 FG, 2-7 3PT, 3-4 FTA)
What Happened: Two open threes, two semi-fastbreak dunks. I won't complain about the two dunks, because those were his only non-3PA of the night.
AMARE STOUDEMIRE
The Line: 30 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists (10-15 FG, 10-11 FT)
What Happened: Gasol and Odom simply could not keep up with Amare. That's accurate, but I felt there were 2 dunks Amare had that came too easily (due to the animation). In total he had 4 dunks, 3 layups, and 2 jumpers.
TIMOFEY MOZGOV
The Line: 6 points, 12 rebounds, 4 blocks (2-5 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-2 FT)
What Happened: Both shots were dunks. One off a cut, one off a rebound.
RONNY TURIAF
The Line: 10 points, 2 blocks (4-6 FG, 2-2 FT)
What happened: All 4 shots were dunks. This is what pissed me off and made me write this.
Dunk #1: Ratliff contests Felton's shot but he passes out to Turiaf who has a clear path. I didn't like this before but it's mainly the CPU defense's fault rather than a baseline exploit. Dunk#2: Amare passes from top of 3pt arch to Turiaf (who has to gather the ball). Turiaf then does a standing dunk. I would have preferred this pass go out of bounds given the passer & receiver.
Dunk#3: Fastbreak dunk off pass from Gallinari. I'm okay with this - it's why I boosted PF/C speed.
Dunk#4: Dunk off a basket cut from the Double Roll play. I'm definitely okay with that.
So really, I'm OKAY with the results... and I suppose it's better than him scoring on post-ups... and this is exactly what I wanted... I just don't like when there are too many dunks is all.
TONEY DOUGLAS
The Line: 5 points, 5 assists, 0 TO (2-3 FG, 1-1 3PT)
What Happened: A three off Douglas' favorite screen play, and a fastbreak layup.
ANTHONY RANDOLPH
The Line: 13 points, 6 rebounds (5-7 FG, 3-3 FT)
What Happened: Surprisingly, only one dunk. Randolph had a mid-range shot off a broken pass, a fastbreak layup, a pick and roll layup, a putback off a rebound, and his dunk was also a putback but a strange one. He rebounded the ball, FAKED A PASS, and then went up for his standing dunk. The defense didn't react to the pass fake, and really should have been trying to swarm him, but instead just watched Randolph gather himself.
ROGER MASON
The Line: 14 points (7-17 FG, 0-4 3PT, 0-0 FT)
What Happened: Mason scored 6 times via his favorite screen play. I think it's time to take it out of his repertoire.
BILL WALKER
The Line: 11 points (4-5 FG, 1-1 3PT, 2-3 FT)
What Happened: One fastbreak dunk, two Iso jumpers, one "and one" layup off a cut
KNICKS SUMMARY
Aside from the usual Mason rubbish, Knicks didn't run too many plays (at least plays that worked). In total there were 15 dunks, and I'd like to try and cut that number in half. I might have to drop some dunk ratings to do it.
LAKERS
I'm not going to get too into detail on the Lakers since I didn't adjust their touches and haven't analyzed their playbooks.
DEREK FISHER
The Line: 4 points, 2 assists (1-3 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-2 FT)
KOBE BRYANT
The Line: 46 points (19-32 FG, 1-1 3PT, 7-10 FT)
What Happened: It's better to just make a list.
Iso Drives: 4 (one dunk)
Iso Jumper: 3 (one with foot on 3pt line)
Post-Ups: 4
Spot-Ups: 4 (one three, one with foot on 3pt line)
Off-Screen Jumper: 3
Fastbreaks: 1
I'd heard that Kobe was taking too many off-screen jumpers before, so it seems my tendency changes fixed that.
RON ARTEST
The Line: 8 points, 6 rebounds, 8 assists, 4 TO (2-6 FG, 1-3 3PT, 3-4 FT)
LAMAR ODOM
The Line: 15 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks (5-8 FG, 1-2 3PT, 4-6 FT)
PAU GASOL
The Line: 36 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists (14-22 FG, 8-9 FT)
SHANNON BROWN
The Line: 8 points (3-4 FG, 1-2 3PT, 1-1 FT)
STEVE BLAKE
The Line: 5 points, 3 assists (2-2 FG, 1-1 3PT)
MATT BARNES
The Line: 0 points (0-3 FG, 0-2 3PT)
THEO RATLIFF
The Line: 0 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists (0-2 FG)
DERRICK CARACTER
The Line: 2 points (1-1 FG)
SUMMARY
The Lakers only had three dunks (one for Kobe, one for Gasol, one for Brown), which I found a bit surprising, especially since Kobe took a lot of shots. Of course, the presence of Andrew Bynum probably would have changed all that.
Looks like it's time to make some Touch adjustments, and solve Roger Mason once and for all.
The Knicks did something they never did against my un-edited Nets team - attack the rim with ferocity.
RAYMOND FELTON
The Line: 12 points, 12 assists, 3 turnovers (3-9 FG, 0-3 3PT, 6-7 FT)
What Happened: All three of Felton's baskets were "And One" layups.
WILSON CHANDLER
The Line: 17 points (5-8 FG, 0-0 3PT, 7-7 FT)
What Happened: Chandler had an "And One" dunk that rattled in. He obviously got 7 FTA from attacking the rim a lot. I don't have too much of a problem though, because the rest of his shots were Isolation jumpers.
DANILO GALLINARI
The Line: 13 points (4-9 FG, 2-7 3PT, 3-4 FTA)
What Happened: Two open threes, two semi-fastbreak dunks. I won't complain about the two dunks, because those were his only non-3PA of the night.
AMARE STOUDEMIRE
The Line: 30 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists (10-15 FG, 10-11 FT)
What Happened: Gasol and Odom simply could not keep up with Amare. That's accurate, but I felt there were 2 dunks Amare had that came too easily (due to the animation). In total he had 4 dunks, 3 layups, and 2 jumpers.
TIMOFEY MOZGOV
The Line: 6 points, 12 rebounds, 4 blocks (2-5 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-2 FT)
What Happened: Both shots were dunks. One off a cut, one off a rebound.
RONNY TURIAF
The Line: 10 points, 2 blocks (4-6 FG, 2-2 FT)
What happened: All 4 shots were dunks. This is what pissed me off and made me write this.
Dunk #1: Ratliff contests Felton's shot but he passes out to Turiaf who has a clear path. I didn't like this before but it's mainly the CPU defense's fault rather than a baseline exploit. Dunk#2: Amare passes from top of 3pt arch to Turiaf (who has to gather the ball). Turiaf then does a standing dunk. I would have preferred this pass go out of bounds given the passer & receiver.
Dunk#3: Fastbreak dunk off pass from Gallinari. I'm okay with this - it's why I boosted PF/C speed.
Dunk#4: Dunk off a basket cut from the Double Roll play. I'm definitely okay with that.
So really, I'm OKAY with the results... and I suppose it's better than him scoring on post-ups... and this is exactly what I wanted... I just don't like when there are too many dunks is all.
TONEY DOUGLAS
The Line: 5 points, 5 assists, 0 TO (2-3 FG, 1-1 3PT)
What Happened: A three off Douglas' favorite screen play, and a fastbreak layup.
ANTHONY RANDOLPH
The Line: 13 points, 6 rebounds (5-7 FG, 3-3 FT)
What Happened: Surprisingly, only one dunk. Randolph had a mid-range shot off a broken pass, a fastbreak layup, a pick and roll layup, a putback off a rebound, and his dunk was also a putback but a strange one. He rebounded the ball, FAKED A PASS, and then went up for his standing dunk. The defense didn't react to the pass fake, and really should have been trying to swarm him, but instead just watched Randolph gather himself.
ROGER MASON
The Line: 14 points (7-17 FG, 0-4 3PT, 0-0 FT)
What Happened: Mason scored 6 times via his favorite screen play. I think it's time to take it out of his repertoire.
BILL WALKER
The Line: 11 points (4-5 FG, 1-1 3PT, 2-3 FT)
What Happened: One fastbreak dunk, two Iso jumpers, one "and one" layup off a cut
KNICKS SUMMARY
Aside from the usual Mason rubbish, Knicks didn't run too many plays (at least plays that worked). In total there were 15 dunks, and I'd like to try and cut that number in half. I might have to drop some dunk ratings to do it.
LAKERS
I'm not going to get too into detail on the Lakers since I didn't adjust their touches and haven't analyzed their playbooks.
DEREK FISHER
The Line: 4 points, 2 assists (1-3 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-2 FT)
KOBE BRYANT
The Line: 46 points (19-32 FG, 1-1 3PT, 7-10 FT)
What Happened: It's better to just make a list.
Iso Drives: 4 (one dunk)
Iso Jumper: 3 (one with foot on 3pt line)
Post-Ups: 4
Spot-Ups: 4 (one three, one with foot on 3pt line)
Off-Screen Jumper: 3
Fastbreaks: 1
I'd heard that Kobe was taking too many off-screen jumpers before, so it seems my tendency changes fixed that.
RON ARTEST
The Line: 8 points, 6 rebounds, 8 assists, 4 TO (2-6 FG, 1-3 3PT, 3-4 FT)
LAMAR ODOM
The Line: 15 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks (5-8 FG, 1-2 3PT, 4-6 FT)
PAU GASOL
The Line: 36 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists (14-22 FG, 8-9 FT)
SHANNON BROWN
The Line: 8 points (3-4 FG, 1-2 3PT, 1-1 FT)
STEVE BLAKE
The Line: 5 points, 3 assists (2-2 FG, 1-1 3PT)
MATT BARNES
The Line: 0 points (0-3 FG, 0-2 3PT)
THEO RATLIFF
The Line: 0 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists (0-2 FG)
DERRICK CARACTER
The Line: 2 points (1-1 FG)
SUMMARY
The Lakers only had three dunks (one for Kobe, one for Gasol, one for Brown), which I found a bit surprising, especially since Kobe took a lot of shots. Of course, the presence of Andrew Bynum probably would have changed all that.
Looks like it's time to make some Touch adjustments, and solve Roger Mason once and for all.
Sunday, October 17, 2010
Editing Touch Tendency, part 2
It's time to run another simulation using everything we learned from previous simulations. I have since adjusted touches tendencies for the Knicks based on their usage rates, and their new values are as follows.
TOUCHES
69 Felton
63 Stoudemire
60 Douglas
58 Mason
43 Turiaf
43 Curry
41 Randolph
32 Gallinari
32 Mozgov
31 Chandler
20 Rautins
7 Walker
KNICKS LINEUP (Touches in parenthasize)
Felton (69), Chandler (31), Gallinari (32), Stoudemire (63), Mozgov (32)
NO PLAY
Gallinari hesitation into a contested fadeaway.
RESULT: SCORE (Gallinari 0-1 FG)
NO PLAY
Gallinari drills an open triple when his man left to double Felton.
RESULT: SCORE (Gallinari 1-2 FG, 1-1 3PT)
NO PLAY
Gallinari gives it to Mozgov in the post, gets fouled and goes to line.
RESULT: FOUL (Mozgov 1-2 FT)
NO PLAY
Amare catches, makes some jab moves, pulls up for a mid-range jumper. No dribbles. He misses the shot, but it's the first quarter, and he's taken a shot!
RESULT: MISS (Amare 0-1 FG)
PF PLAY - 14 DIVE
Felton's pass to Amare gets intercepted. Amare comes off a Mozgov screen but Lopez stepped off Moz to make an easy interception.
RESULT: TURNNOVER (Felton: 1)
NO PLAY
Wasn't paying attention (internet hiccup). Mozgov turned it over somehow.
RESULT: TURNOVER (Mozgov: 1)
PF PLAY - 54 SCREEN
Amare uses Moz screen, takes FT line jumper that bounces in.
RESULT: SCORE (Amare 1-2 FG)
FASTBREAK
Felton bounce pass threads needle to Chandler for a dunk. A pass only Stockton/Nash/Kidd could ever make, but whatever.
RESULT: SCORE (Chandler 1-1 FG)
PF PLAY - 34 POST
Amare turnaround on Lopez from 18 feet. Posting up is way too effective but as with the previous play, that's a separate issue.
RESULT: SCORE (Amare 2-3 FG)
NO PLAY
Amare gets a clearout. Couple jabs, makes his move into the paint (where he is surrounded by four Net defenders). Lopez blocks a hook.
RESULT: MISS (Amare 2-4 FG)
PG PLAY - 1 DOUBLE
Play started with mini-break on steal from Felton, but Chandler couldn't do anything so they reset. Play is a double screen that defense recovers on, but Felton crossovers defender to get a step, goes up for a layup and gets fouled.
RESULT: FOUL (Felton 2-2 FT)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Turiaf for Mozgov
KNICKS LINEUP
Felton (69), Chandler (31), Gallinari (32), Stoudemire (63), Turiaf (43)
RESULT: +11 to center position
PG PLAY - 1 DOUBLE
Double screens again but Felton doesn't use them as he beats Harris off dribble as play is setting up. Outlaw rotates which leaves Gallinari wide open for a three that he misses. For a shooter with a high 3pt rating, Gallinari sure misses a lot of open ones.
RESULT: MISS (Gallinari 1-3 FG, 1-2 3PT)
TIMEOUT - 6:06
NO PLAY
Amare inbounds to Turiaf deep in the post, and he goes up for an easy post layup. If any of us tried that, the pass would fly over Turiaf's head, or be poked away by Lopez. You know this to be a fact.
RESULT: SCORE (Turiaf 1-1 FG)
FASTBREAK
Chandler receives outlet after missed shot for a 3-2 break. Gives up to Felton who goes up, gets contested, but dishes to Gallinari who gets fouled, count the basket.
RESULT: SCORE + FOUL (Gallinari 2-4 FG, 1-2 3PT, 0-1 FT)
PF PLAY - 54 SCREEN
Amare uses Turiaf's screen, goes to the basket on Murphy with ease, count the basket and the foul.
RESULT: SCORE + FOUL (Amare 3-5 FG, 1-1 FT)
C PLAY - 25 QUICK POST
Turiaf somehow draws a foul on Lopez. Murphy and Lopez both have 2 fouls now.
RESULT: FOUL (Turiaf 1-1 FG, 2-2 FT)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Felton for Douglas
Mason for Gallinari
KNICKS LINEUP
Douglas (60), Mason (58), Chandler (31), Stoudemire (63), Turiaf (43)
RESULT: -9 to PG position, +27 to SG position, -2 to SF position
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
Mason is supposed to come off double screens but they never really get set, so he doesn't lose his man. Mason catches and pulls up for a contested fadeaway 18 foot jumper that misses. Nevermind. It bounces in after I unpause it.
RESULT: SCORE (Mason 1-1 FG)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Randolph for Stoudemire (2 fouls on Amare)
KNICKS LINEUP
Douglas (60), Mason (58), Chandler (31), Randolph (41), Turiaf (43)
RESULT: -22 to PF position
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
The screens get set this time, but they are terribly places (particularly Randolph's) so Mason takes another contested jumper that really misses this time.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 1-2 FG)
PG PLAY - 23 UP
This play didn't work last game against Jordan Farmar, but Harris is lackadaisical and Douglas drills an open three.
RESULT: SCORE (Douglas 1-1 FG, 1-1 3PT)
C PLAY - 25 QUICK POST
Turiaf posts up for a fade jumper that misses.
RESULT: MISS (Turiaf 1-2 FG, 2-2 FT)
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
Mason actually gets open this time, but the shot misses. Randolph grabs the offensive board and resets.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 1-3 FG)
NO PLAY (OFF REB)
Randolph offensive rebounds and resets to Chandler, who drives in for a missed mid-range shot.
RESULT: MISS (Chandler 1-2 FG)
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
It's deja vu. Mason gets open but misses the shot, Randolph offensive rebounds.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 1-4 FG)
NO PLAY (OFF REB)
Randolph goes up for the shot this time after his offensive board but it's blocked.
RESULT: MISS (Randolph 0-1 FG)
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
You'd think after running the play 5 times in a row the team would figure out how to run it. Randolph nearly commits a 3 second violation setting a no-where screen while waiting for Turiaf to set his (was just standing around). Randolph leaves the paint, and thats when Turiaf starts his screen and the play starts. Incredulously, however, Mason's man plays horrific defense and gets Mason an open look that he drills this time.
RESULT: SCORE (Mason 2-5 FG)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Felton for Douglas
Walker for Mason
Gallinari for Chandler
Mozgov for Randolph (2 fouls on Randolph)
KNICKS LINEUP
Felton (69), Walker (7), Gallinari (32), Turiaf (43), Mozgov (33)
RESULT: +9 PG, -51 SG, +1 SF, +2 PF, -10 C
NO PLAY (end of quarter)
Felton runs up court and hoists a 35 footer
RESULT: MISS (Felton 0-1 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-2 FT)
END OF FIRST QUARTER
Amare 7 pts (3-5 FG, 1-1 FT)
Gallo 5 pts (2-4 FG, 1-2 3PT, 0-1 FT)
Mason 4 pts (2-5 FG)
Turiaf 4 pts (1-2 FG, 2-2 FT)
Douglas 3 pts (1-1 FG, 1-1 3PT)
Chandler 2 pts (1-2 FG)
Felton 2 pts (0-1 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-2 FT)
Mozgov 1 pts (0-0 FG, 1-2 FT)
Randolph 0 pts (0-1 FG)
Walker 0 pts (0-0 FG)
SECOND QUARTER
SUBSTITUTIONS
Amare for Turiaf
KNICKS LINEUP
Felton (69), Walker (7), Gallinari (32), Stoudemire (63), Mozgov (33)
RESULT: +20 PF
PF PLAY - 14 DIVE
Once again this play is broken up with an interception, this time by a diving Murphy (Amare's man who got caught on the Moz screen). Something tells me this play isn't very effective.
RESULT: TURNOVER (Felton: 2)
PG PLAY - 21 FADE
Felton comes off double screen but doesn't have an open look. Instead he iso's around a bit before pulling up for a three that misses. Mozgov skies for an offensive board.
RESULT: MISS (Felton 0-2 FG, 0-2 3PT, 2-2 FT)
NO PLAY (OFF REB)
Moz resets to Gallinari on wing. Gallo dribbles to opposite side of the court, and rewards Moz by dishing it to him for a dunk on a basket cut. LOL, I wonder if the game actually counts that as a "Give and Go".
RESULT: SCORE (Mozgov 1-1 FG, 0-1 FT)
PF PLAY - 34 POST
Amare gets doubled and kicks it back out to Gallo. Gallo has a wideopen three but instead opts to put it on the floor and take an 18 foot jumper that goes in (much to my hair's delight).
RESULT: SCORE (Gallinari 3-5 FG, 1-2 3PT, 0-1 FT)
PG PLAY - 41 ROLL
Amare sets a pick and rolls before Felton uses it. Felton drives to basket, dishes out to Walker for an open three, but it misses.
RESULT: MISS (Walker 0-1 FG, 0-1 3PT)
PF PLAY - 24 POST
This play is designed to look like 25 Quick Post, but instead they swing it around to make it a 34 Post. Amare makes his move and gets fouled, count the basket. That's 3 fouls on Murphy btw.
RESULT: SCORE + FOUL (Stoudemire 4-6 FG, 1-2 FT)
PG PLAY - 12 FADE
Walker almost gets the pass to Felton intercepted. Walker recovers and gives it to Felton. Felton drives into the lane for a hop step layup.
RESULT: SCORE (Felton 1-3 FG, 0-2 3PT, 2-2 FT)
PF PLAY - 24 POST
Amare takes a faceup jumper that misses.
RESULT: MISS (Stoudemire 4-7 FG, 1-2 FT)
PF PLAY - 34 POST
Amare gets doubled, kicks it out to Gallinari who dribbles to mid-court to take a drifting jumper that misses.
RESULT: MISS (Gallinari 3-6 FG, 1-2 3PT, 0-1 FT)
FASTBREAK (Cherry picking, actually)
Mozgov gets a head start on Lopez after a made shot. Felton recognizes and hits Moz for a cross court pass and a dunk.
RESULT: SCORE (Mozgov 2-2 FG, 1-2 FT)
FASTBREAK
Missed shot lets Felton outlet to Gallinari. Defense makes Gallo pick up his dribble, but he forces a shot and gets fouled.
RESULT: FOUL (Gallinari 3-6 FG, 1-2 3PT, 1-3 FT)
SUBSTITUTION
Randolph for Stoudemire
Turiaf for Mozgov
KNICKS LINEUP
Felton (69), Chandler (31), Gallinari (32), Randolph (41), Mozgov (43)
RESULT: SG +24, -22 PF, +10 C
PG PLAY - 1 DOUBLE
Play never starts as Felton gives it to Chandler. Chandler's man goes for steal so he has clear path to the basket. Drives in but gets blocked.
RESULT: MISS (Chandler 1-3 FG)
FASTBREAK
Gallinari gets steal, hits breaking Chandler for a clear path dunk.
RESULT: SCORE (Chandler 2-4 FG)
TIMEOUT - 5:50
C PLAY - 25 QUICK POST
Chandler never gives it to Turiaf because Chandler's man is stuck behind posting Turiaf and his defender. Chandler has an open three, but instead fakes for NO REASON (hello computer, there is no defender!) and takes a dribble forward to take a two. Unfortunately, Chandler's defender is able to recover because of the fake and the fact that he stepped forward. The shot is semi-contested and misses.
RESULT: MISS (Chandler 2-5 FG)
C PLAY - 25 QUICK POST
Turiaf posts up on Johan Petro, evading him for an easy shot. I know post defense ratings are low because I haven't adjusted them yet, and that these plays need to be updated so Turiaf isn't posting up everytime a play is run for him, but the fact that he can do this so consistently is really maddening.
RESULT: SCORE (Turiaf 2-3 FG, 2-2 FT)
NO PLAY - CLEAROUT
Felton gets a clearout. Chandler comes over to get a pass, and turns to face the basket. Anthony Morrow DOES NOT MOVE on the turn, he just stands there, so Chandler has a clear path to the basket, and dunks it.
RESULT: SCORE (Chandler 3-6 FG)
FASTBREAK
Chandler gets an outlet, Morrow recovers but Chandler forces it up and draws a foul, count the basket.
RESULT: SCORE + FOUL (Chandler 4-7 FG, 0-1 FT)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Douglas for Felton
Mason for Gallinari
KNICKS LINEUP
Douglas (60), Mason (58), Chandler (31), Randolph (41), Turiaf (43)
RESULT: -9 PG, +27 SG, -1 SF
NO PLAY
Douglas tries to push for a break but nothing comes of it. He dribbles around for a bit and takes a three that Randolph rebounds.
RESULT: MISS (Douglas 1-2 FG, 1-2 3PT)
NO PLAY - OFF REB
Randolph rebounds and resets to Chandler, who pulls up for a 22 foot jumper on the wing.
RESULT: SCORE (Chandler 5-8 FG, 0-1 FT)
TIMEOUT - 3:24
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Mason's defender gets hit by both screens but still recovers. For once, Mason doesn't pull up for the shot. He takes a couple dribbles, does that fake turnaround shot thing, then dishes to Randolph who is open behind him. Randolph dribbles from the left side to the right to take a drifting off balance jumper that misses. Instead of just pulling up for the open one that he had in the first place. This jumper crap is pretty annoying. Turiaf grabs the offensive board.
RESULT: MISS (Randolph 0-2 FG)
NO PLAY - OFF REB
Morrow pokes through Turiaf's leg to knock the ball away. HIGH FIVE FOR NON-SHOOTING FOULS!
RESULT: TURNOVER (Turiaf: 1)
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Again Mason doesn't take the shot off the catch, but instead takes a couple dribbles for a fade that misses.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 2-6 FG)
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Mason gets an open look and misses.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 2-7 FG)
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Mason gets an open look and hits it.
RESULT: SCORE (Mason 3-8 FG)
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Mason has no shot, dribbles it around, gives it up to open Douglas on wing (Harris was reaching for steal). Douglas has an open three, but instead dribbles closer. He actually dribbles past his defender and gets an open leaner from about 8 feet, but it misses.
RESULT: MISS (Douglas 1-3 FG, 1-2 3PT)
NO PLAY (Final play of qtr)
Douglas dribbles around and takes a three with 4 seconds left on the clock.
RESULT: MISS (Douglas 1-4 FG, 1-3 3PT)
END OF 2ND QUARTER
Chandler 10 pts, 19 mins (5-8 FG, 0-1 FT)
Stoudemire 9 pts, 14 mins (4-7 FG, 1-2 FT)
Gallinari 8 pts, 17 mins (3-6 FG, 1-2 3PT, 1-3 FT)
Mason 6 pts, 8 mins (3-8 FG)
Turiaf 6 pts, 14 mins (2-3 FG, 2-2 FT)
Mozgov 5 pts, 11 mins (2-2 FG, 1-2 FT)
Felton 4 pts, 17 mins (1-3 FG, 0-2 3PT, 2-2 FT)
Douglas 3 pts, 8 mins (1-4 FG, 1-3 3PT)
Walker 0 pts, 6 mins (0-1 FG, 0-1 3PT)
Randolph 0 pts, 11 mins (0-2 FG)
Okay, I'm done tracking play by play. Let's talk about the results and let the CPU run in the background.
IS AMARE FIXED?
Looks like it. Amare finally took a reasonable amount of shots, and even had the majority of the plays called for him. I'd still like to see a couple more isolations and drives, so we might need to keep upping the team's Attack Basket tendency.
WHY IS ROGER MASON A GO-TO-GUY?
It's not so much that Mason getting all these plays is a bad thing. The problem is all those plays are the exact same thing - a screen play. Mason ran pick and rolls in San Antonio, and that needs to be incorporated into his playbook. Of course, if Mason sees a decrease in P/R action in NY, that would be cause for lowering his Touches to Chandler/Gallinari levels. Which should fix that problem.
WHY ARE SO MANY JUMPERS MISSING?
This is technically not a problem. I'm okay with missed jumpers. The problem is the CPU is passing up open shots to take lower-quality momentum shots, solely because the tendencies are telling them to. This is just bad basketball that is being forced upon us. It's another area that will have to be tested with, though the issue isn't nearly as pressing as this touches issue.
WHY ARE SO MANY POST SHOTS GOING IN?
Basically, post defense in this game is near useless. The defense is at the mercy of the offense, and there are few counters. It certainly doesn't help that most players have underrated post defense.
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY AND ONES?
I'm guessing that "Hard Foul" tendency needs to be raised for more players. Players are getting contact and never even have to make an adjustment to their shots. It would also be cool if the CPU would actually commit a reach in foul, over the back, etc, which they have yet to do in any of my sims. Every foul has been a shooting foul (or an intentional foul at the end of the 4th).
END OF GAME BOX (pts-reb-ast-stl-blk-to-pf-mins)
Mozgov: 5-6-0-0-2-1-3-26 (2-4 FG, 1-2 FT)
Stoudemire: 26-11-4-1-0-1-2-35 (10-21 FG, 6-9 FT)
Gallinari: 13-1-2-2-0-2-0-34 (5-11 FG, 2-4 3PT, 1-3 FT)
Chandler: 21-5-4-0-0-1-1-37 (8-14 FG, 1-1 3PT, 4-5 FT)
Felton: 13-2-7-3-0-31-36 (5-8 FG, 0-2 3PT, 3-4 FT)
BENCH
Randolph: 0-4-2-0-3-0-2-17 (0-3 FG)
Douglas: 11-0-4-0-0-0-0-13 (4-8 FG, 2-4 3PT, 1-1 FT)
Turiaf: 6-4-0-0-2-1-1-17 (2-3 FG, 2-2 FT)
Mason: 6-2-1-0-0-0-0-17 (3-10 FG, 0-1 3PT)
Walker: 3-2-0-0-0-1-1-13 (1-3 FG, 1-2 3PT)
TEAM STATS
104 pts
40-85 FG (47%)
6-14 3PT (42%)
18-26 FT (69%)
24 ast, 10 TO
40 Paint pts
Excellent. All that has to be done now is fix playbooks and these results are golden.
TOUCHES
69 Felton
63 Stoudemire
60 Douglas
58 Mason
43 Turiaf
43 Curry
41 Randolph
32 Gallinari
32 Mozgov
31 Chandler
20 Rautins
7 Walker
KNICKS LINEUP (Touches in parenthasize)
Felton (69), Chandler (31), Gallinari (32), Stoudemire (63), Mozgov (32)
NO PLAY
Gallinari hesitation into a contested fadeaway.
RESULT: SCORE (Gallinari 0-1 FG)
NO PLAY
Gallinari drills an open triple when his man left to double Felton.
RESULT: SCORE (Gallinari 1-2 FG, 1-1 3PT)
NO PLAY
Gallinari gives it to Mozgov in the post, gets fouled and goes to line.
RESULT: FOUL (Mozgov 1-2 FT)
NO PLAY
Amare catches, makes some jab moves, pulls up for a mid-range jumper. No dribbles. He misses the shot, but it's the first quarter, and he's taken a shot!
RESULT: MISS (Amare 0-1 FG)
PF PLAY - 14 DIVE
Felton's pass to Amare gets intercepted. Amare comes off a Mozgov screen but Lopez stepped off Moz to make an easy interception.
RESULT: TURNNOVER (Felton: 1)
NO PLAY
Wasn't paying attention (internet hiccup). Mozgov turned it over somehow.
RESULT: TURNOVER (Mozgov: 1)
PF PLAY - 54 SCREEN
Amare uses Moz screen, takes FT line jumper that bounces in.
RESULT: SCORE (Amare 1-2 FG)
FASTBREAK
Felton bounce pass threads needle to Chandler for a dunk. A pass only Stockton/Nash/Kidd could ever make, but whatever.
RESULT: SCORE (Chandler 1-1 FG)
PF PLAY - 34 POST
Amare turnaround on Lopez from 18 feet. Posting up is way too effective but as with the previous play, that's a separate issue.
RESULT: SCORE (Amare 2-3 FG)
NO PLAY
Amare gets a clearout. Couple jabs, makes his move into the paint (where he is surrounded by four Net defenders). Lopez blocks a hook.
RESULT: MISS (Amare 2-4 FG)
PG PLAY - 1 DOUBLE
Play started with mini-break on steal from Felton, but Chandler couldn't do anything so they reset. Play is a double screen that defense recovers on, but Felton crossovers defender to get a step, goes up for a layup and gets fouled.
RESULT: FOUL (Felton 2-2 FT)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Turiaf for Mozgov
KNICKS LINEUP
Felton (69), Chandler (31), Gallinari (32), Stoudemire (63), Turiaf (43)
RESULT: +11 to center position
PG PLAY - 1 DOUBLE
Double screens again but Felton doesn't use them as he beats Harris off dribble as play is setting up. Outlaw rotates which leaves Gallinari wide open for a three that he misses. For a shooter with a high 3pt rating, Gallinari sure misses a lot of open ones.
RESULT: MISS (Gallinari 1-3 FG, 1-2 3PT)
TIMEOUT - 6:06
NO PLAY
Amare inbounds to Turiaf deep in the post, and he goes up for an easy post layup. If any of us tried that, the pass would fly over Turiaf's head, or be poked away by Lopez. You know this to be a fact.
RESULT: SCORE (Turiaf 1-1 FG)
FASTBREAK
Chandler receives outlet after missed shot for a 3-2 break. Gives up to Felton who goes up, gets contested, but dishes to Gallinari who gets fouled, count the basket.
RESULT: SCORE + FOUL (Gallinari 2-4 FG, 1-2 3PT, 0-1 FT)
PF PLAY - 54 SCREEN
Amare uses Turiaf's screen, goes to the basket on Murphy with ease, count the basket and the foul.
RESULT: SCORE + FOUL (Amare 3-5 FG, 1-1 FT)
C PLAY - 25 QUICK POST
Turiaf somehow draws a foul on Lopez. Murphy and Lopez both have 2 fouls now.
RESULT: FOUL (Turiaf 1-1 FG, 2-2 FT)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Felton for Douglas
Mason for Gallinari
KNICKS LINEUP
Douglas (60), Mason (58), Chandler (31), Stoudemire (63), Turiaf (43)
RESULT: -9 to PG position, +27 to SG position, -2 to SF position
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
Mason is supposed to come off double screens but they never really get set, so he doesn't lose his man. Mason catches and pulls up for a contested fadeaway 18 foot jumper that misses. Nevermind. It bounces in after I unpause it.
RESULT: SCORE (Mason 1-1 FG)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Randolph for Stoudemire (2 fouls on Amare)
KNICKS LINEUP
Douglas (60), Mason (58), Chandler (31), Randolph (41), Turiaf (43)
RESULT: -22 to PF position
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
The screens get set this time, but they are terribly places (particularly Randolph's) so Mason takes another contested jumper that really misses this time.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 1-2 FG)
PG PLAY - 23 UP
This play didn't work last game against Jordan Farmar, but Harris is lackadaisical and Douglas drills an open three.
RESULT: SCORE (Douglas 1-1 FG, 1-1 3PT)
C PLAY - 25 QUICK POST
Turiaf posts up for a fade jumper that misses.
RESULT: MISS (Turiaf 1-2 FG, 2-2 FT)
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
Mason actually gets open this time, but the shot misses. Randolph grabs the offensive board and resets.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 1-3 FG)
NO PLAY (OFF REB)
Randolph offensive rebounds and resets to Chandler, who drives in for a missed mid-range shot.
RESULT: MISS (Chandler 1-2 FG)
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
It's deja vu. Mason gets open but misses the shot, Randolph offensive rebounds.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 1-4 FG)
NO PLAY (OFF REB)
Randolph goes up for the shot this time after his offensive board but it's blocked.
RESULT: MISS (Randolph 0-1 FG)
SG PLAY - 12 OVER
You'd think after running the play 5 times in a row the team would figure out how to run it. Randolph nearly commits a 3 second violation setting a no-where screen while waiting for Turiaf to set his (was just standing around). Randolph leaves the paint, and thats when Turiaf starts his screen and the play starts. Incredulously, however, Mason's man plays horrific defense and gets Mason an open look that he drills this time.
RESULT: SCORE (Mason 2-5 FG)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Felton for Douglas
Walker for Mason
Gallinari for Chandler
Mozgov for Randolph (2 fouls on Randolph)
KNICKS LINEUP
Felton (69), Walker (7), Gallinari (32), Turiaf (43), Mozgov (33)
RESULT: +9 PG, -51 SG, +1 SF, +2 PF, -10 C
NO PLAY (end of quarter)
Felton runs up court and hoists a 35 footer
RESULT: MISS (Felton 0-1 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-2 FT)
END OF FIRST QUARTER
Amare 7 pts (3-5 FG, 1-1 FT)
Gallo 5 pts (2-4 FG, 1-2 3PT, 0-1 FT)
Mason 4 pts (2-5 FG)
Turiaf 4 pts (1-2 FG, 2-2 FT)
Douglas 3 pts (1-1 FG, 1-1 3PT)
Chandler 2 pts (1-2 FG)
Felton 2 pts (0-1 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-2 FT)
Mozgov 1 pts (0-0 FG, 1-2 FT)
Randolph 0 pts (0-1 FG)
Walker 0 pts (0-0 FG)
SECOND QUARTER
SUBSTITUTIONS
Amare for Turiaf
KNICKS LINEUP
Felton (69), Walker (7), Gallinari (32), Stoudemire (63), Mozgov (33)
RESULT: +20 PF
PF PLAY - 14 DIVE
Once again this play is broken up with an interception, this time by a diving Murphy (Amare's man who got caught on the Moz screen). Something tells me this play isn't very effective.
RESULT: TURNOVER (Felton: 2)
PG PLAY - 21 FADE
Felton comes off double screen but doesn't have an open look. Instead he iso's around a bit before pulling up for a three that misses. Mozgov skies for an offensive board.
RESULT: MISS (Felton 0-2 FG, 0-2 3PT, 2-2 FT)
NO PLAY (OFF REB)
Moz resets to Gallinari on wing. Gallo dribbles to opposite side of the court, and rewards Moz by dishing it to him for a dunk on a basket cut. LOL, I wonder if the game actually counts that as a "Give and Go".
RESULT: SCORE (Mozgov 1-1 FG, 0-1 FT)
PF PLAY - 34 POST
Amare gets doubled and kicks it back out to Gallo. Gallo has a wideopen three but instead opts to put it on the floor and take an 18 foot jumper that goes in (much to my hair's delight).
RESULT: SCORE (Gallinari 3-5 FG, 1-2 3PT, 0-1 FT)
PG PLAY - 41 ROLL
Amare sets a pick and rolls before Felton uses it. Felton drives to basket, dishes out to Walker for an open three, but it misses.
RESULT: MISS (Walker 0-1 FG, 0-1 3PT)
PF PLAY - 24 POST
This play is designed to look like 25 Quick Post, but instead they swing it around to make it a 34 Post. Amare makes his move and gets fouled, count the basket. That's 3 fouls on Murphy btw.
RESULT: SCORE + FOUL (Stoudemire 4-6 FG, 1-2 FT)
PG PLAY - 12 FADE
Walker almost gets the pass to Felton intercepted. Walker recovers and gives it to Felton. Felton drives into the lane for a hop step layup.
RESULT: SCORE (Felton 1-3 FG, 0-2 3PT, 2-2 FT)
PF PLAY - 24 POST
Amare takes a faceup jumper that misses.
RESULT: MISS (Stoudemire 4-7 FG, 1-2 FT)
PF PLAY - 34 POST
Amare gets doubled, kicks it out to Gallinari who dribbles to mid-court to take a drifting jumper that misses.
RESULT: MISS (Gallinari 3-6 FG, 1-2 3PT, 0-1 FT)
FASTBREAK (Cherry picking, actually)
Mozgov gets a head start on Lopez after a made shot. Felton recognizes and hits Moz for a cross court pass and a dunk.
RESULT: SCORE (Mozgov 2-2 FG, 1-2 FT)
FASTBREAK
Missed shot lets Felton outlet to Gallinari. Defense makes Gallo pick up his dribble, but he forces a shot and gets fouled.
RESULT: FOUL (Gallinari 3-6 FG, 1-2 3PT, 1-3 FT)
SUBSTITUTION
Randolph for Stoudemire
Turiaf for Mozgov
KNICKS LINEUP
Felton (69), Chandler (31), Gallinari (32), Randolph (41), Mozgov (43)
RESULT: SG +24, -22 PF, +10 C
PG PLAY - 1 DOUBLE
Play never starts as Felton gives it to Chandler. Chandler's man goes for steal so he has clear path to the basket. Drives in but gets blocked.
RESULT: MISS (Chandler 1-3 FG)
FASTBREAK
Gallinari gets steal, hits breaking Chandler for a clear path dunk.
RESULT: SCORE (Chandler 2-4 FG)
TIMEOUT - 5:50
C PLAY - 25 QUICK POST
Chandler never gives it to Turiaf because Chandler's man is stuck behind posting Turiaf and his defender. Chandler has an open three, but instead fakes for NO REASON (hello computer, there is no defender!) and takes a dribble forward to take a two. Unfortunately, Chandler's defender is able to recover because of the fake and the fact that he stepped forward. The shot is semi-contested and misses.
RESULT: MISS (Chandler 2-5 FG)
C PLAY - 25 QUICK POST
Turiaf posts up on Johan Petro, evading him for an easy shot. I know post defense ratings are low because I haven't adjusted them yet, and that these plays need to be updated so Turiaf isn't posting up everytime a play is run for him, but the fact that he can do this so consistently is really maddening.
RESULT: SCORE (Turiaf 2-3 FG, 2-2 FT)
NO PLAY - CLEAROUT
Felton gets a clearout. Chandler comes over to get a pass, and turns to face the basket. Anthony Morrow DOES NOT MOVE on the turn, he just stands there, so Chandler has a clear path to the basket, and dunks it.
RESULT: SCORE (Chandler 3-6 FG)
FASTBREAK
Chandler gets an outlet, Morrow recovers but Chandler forces it up and draws a foul, count the basket.
RESULT: SCORE + FOUL (Chandler 4-7 FG, 0-1 FT)
SUBSTITUTIONS
Douglas for Felton
Mason for Gallinari
KNICKS LINEUP
Douglas (60), Mason (58), Chandler (31), Randolph (41), Turiaf (43)
RESULT: -9 PG, +27 SG, -1 SF
NO PLAY
Douglas tries to push for a break but nothing comes of it. He dribbles around for a bit and takes a three that Randolph rebounds.
RESULT: MISS (Douglas 1-2 FG, 1-2 3PT)
NO PLAY - OFF REB
Randolph rebounds and resets to Chandler, who pulls up for a 22 foot jumper on the wing.
RESULT: SCORE (Chandler 5-8 FG, 0-1 FT)
TIMEOUT - 3:24
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Mason's defender gets hit by both screens but still recovers. For once, Mason doesn't pull up for the shot. He takes a couple dribbles, does that fake turnaround shot thing, then dishes to Randolph who is open behind him. Randolph dribbles from the left side to the right to take a drifting off balance jumper that misses. Instead of just pulling up for the open one that he had in the first place. This jumper crap is pretty annoying. Turiaf grabs the offensive board.
RESULT: MISS (Randolph 0-2 FG)
NO PLAY - OFF REB
Morrow pokes through Turiaf's leg to knock the ball away. HIGH FIVE FOR NON-SHOOTING FOULS!
RESULT: TURNOVER (Turiaf: 1)
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Again Mason doesn't take the shot off the catch, but instead takes a couple dribbles for a fade that misses.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 2-6 FG)
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Mason gets an open look and misses.
RESULT: MISS (Mason 2-7 FG)
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Mason gets an open look and hits it.
RESULT: SCORE (Mason 3-8 FG)
SG PLAY - 23 UP
Mason has no shot, dribbles it around, gives it up to open Douglas on wing (Harris was reaching for steal). Douglas has an open three, but instead dribbles closer. He actually dribbles past his defender and gets an open leaner from about 8 feet, but it misses.
RESULT: MISS (Douglas 1-3 FG, 1-2 3PT)
NO PLAY (Final play of qtr)
Douglas dribbles around and takes a three with 4 seconds left on the clock.
RESULT: MISS (Douglas 1-4 FG, 1-3 3PT)
END OF 2ND QUARTER
Chandler 10 pts, 19 mins (5-8 FG, 0-1 FT)
Stoudemire 9 pts, 14 mins (4-7 FG, 1-2 FT)
Gallinari 8 pts, 17 mins (3-6 FG, 1-2 3PT, 1-3 FT)
Mason 6 pts, 8 mins (3-8 FG)
Turiaf 6 pts, 14 mins (2-3 FG, 2-2 FT)
Mozgov 5 pts, 11 mins (2-2 FG, 1-2 FT)
Felton 4 pts, 17 mins (1-3 FG, 0-2 3PT, 2-2 FT)
Douglas 3 pts, 8 mins (1-4 FG, 1-3 3PT)
Walker 0 pts, 6 mins (0-1 FG, 0-1 3PT)
Randolph 0 pts, 11 mins (0-2 FG)
Okay, I'm done tracking play by play. Let's talk about the results and let the CPU run in the background.
IS AMARE FIXED?
Looks like it. Amare finally took a reasonable amount of shots, and even had the majority of the plays called for him. I'd still like to see a couple more isolations and drives, so we might need to keep upping the team's Attack Basket tendency.
WHY IS ROGER MASON A GO-TO-GUY?
It's not so much that Mason getting all these plays is a bad thing. The problem is all those plays are the exact same thing - a screen play. Mason ran pick and rolls in San Antonio, and that needs to be incorporated into his playbook. Of course, if Mason sees a decrease in P/R action in NY, that would be cause for lowering his Touches to Chandler/Gallinari levels. Which should fix that problem.
WHY ARE SO MANY JUMPERS MISSING?
This is technically not a problem. I'm okay with missed jumpers. The problem is the CPU is passing up open shots to take lower-quality momentum shots, solely because the tendencies are telling them to. This is just bad basketball that is being forced upon us. It's another area that will have to be tested with, though the issue isn't nearly as pressing as this touches issue.
WHY ARE SO MANY POST SHOTS GOING IN?
Basically, post defense in this game is near useless. The defense is at the mercy of the offense, and there are few counters. It certainly doesn't help that most players have underrated post defense.
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY AND ONES?
I'm guessing that "Hard Foul" tendency needs to be raised for more players. Players are getting contact and never even have to make an adjustment to their shots. It would also be cool if the CPU would actually commit a reach in foul, over the back, etc, which they have yet to do in any of my sims. Every foul has been a shooting foul (or an intentional foul at the end of the 4th).
END OF GAME BOX (pts-reb-ast-stl-blk-to-pf-mins)
Mozgov: 5-6-0-0-2-1-3-26 (2-4 FG, 1-2 FT)
Stoudemire: 26-11-4-1-0-1-2-35 (10-21 FG, 6-9 FT)
Gallinari: 13-1-2-2-0-2-0-34 (5-11 FG, 2-4 3PT, 1-3 FT)
Chandler: 21-5-4-0-0-1-1-37 (8-14 FG, 1-1 3PT, 4-5 FT)
Felton: 13-2-7-3-0-31-36 (5-8 FG, 0-2 3PT, 3-4 FT)
BENCH
Randolph: 0-4-2-0-3-0-2-17 (0-3 FG)
Douglas: 11-0-4-0-0-0-0-13 (4-8 FG, 2-4 3PT, 1-1 FT)
Turiaf: 6-4-0-0-2-1-1-17 (2-3 FG, 2-2 FT)
Mason: 6-2-1-0-0-0-0-17 (3-10 FG, 0-1 3PT)
Walker: 3-2-0-0-0-1-1-13 (1-3 FG, 1-2 3PT)
TEAM STATS
104 pts
40-85 FG (47%)
6-14 3PT (42%)
18-26 FT (69%)
24 ast, 10 TO
40 Paint pts
Excellent. All that has to be done now is fix playbooks and these results are golden.
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