Tuesday, October 20, 2009

Another Association Test

East All-Stars
PG Devin Harris
SG Dwyane Wade
SF LeBron James
PF Chris Bosh
C Dwight Howard
PG Rajon Rondo (1st)
SG Andre Iguodala (1st)
SF Caron Butler
PF Josh Smith (1st)
C Brook Lopez (1st)
SG Joe Johnson
PG Derrick Rose (1st) (MVP of game with 17 pts and 13 ast in 43 mins)

West All-Stars
PG Chris Paul
SG Kobe Bryant
SF Carmelo Anthony
PF Al Jefferson (1st)
C Yao Ming
PG Baron Davis
SG Brandon Roy
SF Stephen Jackson (1st)
PF Dirk Nowitzki
C Emeka Okafor (1st)
PG Deron Williams (1st)
PG Tony Parker (22 pts and 13 ast in 44 mins. Every other player played 20 mins or less, same with the east. odd that the 12th man on each team would play double the minutes)

Sophmore Team
PG Derrick Rose
SG O.J. Mayo
SF Michael Beasley
PF Anthony Randolph
C Brook Lopez
PG Russell Westbrook
SG Eric Gordon
SF Luc Mbah a Moute
PF Jason Thompson
C Marc Gasol

Rookie Team
PG Stephen Curry
SG James Harden
SF Chase Budinger
PF Blake Griffin
C Jordan Hill
PG Jonny Flynn
SG Tyreke Evans
SF Earl Clark
PF Tyler Hansbrough
C David Andersen

The rookies actually smashed the sophmores 77-63, which is probably proof enough that the rookies are vastly overrated. Blake Griffin had 4 pts and 23 rebounds.

MVP: LeBron James (30.7 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 8.0 apg, 2.2 spg, 1.5 bpg, 49 FG%, 75 FT%, 37 3PT%)
ROY: Blake Griffin (14.6 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 1.1 apg, 0.7 spg, 0.5 bpg, 51 FG%, 61 FT%, 0 3PT%)
6TH: Manu Ginobili (13.0 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.1 apg, 2.2 spg, 0.4 bpg, 44 FG%, 85 FT%, 36 3PT%)
DPY: Josh Smith (18.6 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.1 apg, 2.2 spg, 2.5 bpg, 49 FG%, 66 FT%, 29 3PT%)
MIP: Anthony Randolph (11.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.0 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.9 bpg, 50 FG%, 67 FT%, 0 3PT%)
COY: Nate McMillan (54-28, 4th in power rankings w/ 78 overall team)

Interestingly enough when I go to Awards in the History section, it lists Dwight Howard as the 2010 DPOY not Josh Smith.

All-NBA Teams
PG: Devin Harris, Chris Paul, Tony Parker
SG: Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, Brandon Roy
SF: LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant
PF: Al Jefferson, Chris Bosh, Dirk Nowitzki
C: Dwight Howard, Yao Ming, Brook Lopez

All-Defensive Teams
PG: Jason Kidd, Chris Paul
SG: Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant
SF: LeBron James, Shawn Marion
PF: Josh Smith, Tim Duncan
C: Dwight Howard, Brook Lopez

All-Rookie Teams
PG: Stephen Curry, Jonny Flynn
SG: James Harden, Tyreke Evans
SF: Chase Budinger, Earl Clark
PF: Blake Griffin, Tyler Hansbrough
C: Jordan Hill, David Andersen

League Leaders
Points: Dwyane Wade (30.7)
Rebounds: Chris Bosh (15.0) - looks like last time was no fluke and I'll have to adjust this.
Assists: Jason Kidd (12.3) - questionable
Steals: Chris Paul (3.1)
Blocks: Tim Duncan (3.1) - questionable
Minutes: LeBron James (41.46)


First Round
Western Conference
1. Spurs (4)
8. Lakers (2)

4. Clippers (1)
5. Mavericks (4)

3. Nuggets (4)
6. Warriors (1)

2. Blazers (3)
7. Jazz (4)

Lakers as the 8th seed? 2K's sim engine never ceases to amaze me.

Eastern Conference
1. Celtics (4)
8. Heat (0)

4. Hawks (4)
5. Wizards (3)

3. Magic (4)
6. Bobcats (0)

2. Cavaliers (4)
7. Knicks (0)

At least they got it right in the east, where the top four teams all advance, and the top three all do it via sweep.

Second Round
1. Spurs (4)
5. Mavericks (2)

3. Nuggets (1)
7. Jazz (4)

1. Celtics (4)
4. Hawks (3)

3. Magic (4)
2. Cavaliers (1)

Pretty predictable second round, for the east, wouldn't you say? Where have we seen those results before...

Conference Finals
1. Spurs (4)
7. Jazz (3)

1. Celtics (2)
3. Magic (4)

For what it's worth, Rajon Rondo got hurt in game 4 and missed the rest of the series. Orlando returns to the NBA Finals.

NBA Finals
1. Spurs (2)
3. Magic (4)

Dwight Howard was predictably Finals MVP (21.5 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 1.3 apg, 0.9 spg, 3.0 bpg).

Retirements: Lindsey Hunter, Shaquille O'Neal, Michael Finley, Theo Ratliff, Kevin Ollie, Mark Blount. That's actually pretty realistic though you can quibble about Shaq if you want. Let's take a look at his player profile.

Morale: around 30, resulting in an overall decrease of -4 which put him at 75 (default is 81 which means he naturally declined 2 pts as well throughout the year)
Agent: Basically he wanted a trade due to PT
Contract: I don't think I can go through the physical grind of another season. This will be my final season in the NBA.

Lindsey was the unhappiest (0 morale and -10 overall), Finley, Ollie, and Blount were all very happy (100 morale), Ratliff was about 50 morale and thought his role would be bigger.

Coach retirements: Mike Dunleavy and Rick Adelman. Still completely unrealistic as coaches shouldn't retire until they've hit 30 years in the league, or if they have guaranteed contracts.

And at this point my game freezes. Awesome 2k. Awesome.


Shelb said...

The Chris Bosh rebound problem is going to be hard to solve. His rebounding rating is pretty accurate, it's just the rest of the Raptors suck in rebounding. Even raising Bargnani based on the assumption his RPG goes up this year (which it seems it will), means Bargnani averages 4.5-6 rpg and Bosh grabs 12.5ish.

That being said, I beg you good sir, Raptors update soon? I originally edited them but I'm too close to be fair.

Shelb said...

Oh, one last thing for the roster update...

KG's "personality" is Neutral in the current roster. I'd say he's Expressive(and that's probably an understatement). Not that it's a gameplay change since no basketball game has added Techs, even though it's something people have been asking for for years.

Rashidi said...

Personality is more a factor of team morale in association. KG wasn't vocally seeking a trade in Minnesota and he doesn't really rock the boat in Boston. I'll take it under consideration though.

On court expression is covered by the emotion rating, of which KG has a 99 but probably deserves 999.

Rashidi said...

Bosh's rebounding is likely to spike with no other rebounders around him (ala David Lee) but 15 is obviously a bit much. It will be interesting to see if Turkoglu can boost his boards now that he's not playing with Dwight Howard (but I doubt it... Howard's boards are so high because he played with two perimeter SFs and no PF).

Of course, this brings us to the fact that stats don't really accurately gauge rebounding as teammates have a big impact on it.

One thing I can do is run another association but check the leaguewide team stats to see which teams lead in each stat category. That will tell us what percentage of rebounds Bosh is grabbing on the team. I would hope the Raptors are towards the bottom of the league in boarding despite Bosh's increased totals.

Shelb said...

I thought "personality" meant how the player deals with foul/etc calls. My bad. But if it means how the player copes with losing/whatnot than it's even worse. Kobe being "unpredictable" is alittle excessive. Same with Artest (who, while he is litterally unpredictable, generally doesn't actually complain about his team's quality). Same with Vince, who is now more "laid back" than "expressive", since he's such was such a pain in the ass in Toronto that he (aka his mother) decided to just shut up completely since he moved to Jersey/Orlando.

Really, to he honest, that whole section is pretty weird/unthought out/un explained. Oh well, why expect anything different from the brain trust at 2K Sports, right?


I think the best bet right now is to boost Bargnani's boards about 7-11 points, and bring everyone else of the Raptors (ie, bring Evans up to 99 since he won't get enough enoughs anyway, bring up Jack's, Jose's, Marco's, Rasho's and DeRozan's just a tad. Jack and Jose get practically zero boards, Marco gets none also although he really gets none and Rasho IMO is alittle unrated this year after being overrated the last two).

The main problem of course is that the Raptors are so terrible on the board minus Bosh/Evans so Bosh's numbers so up so huge. The high offensive rating and low defense rating for the Raps as a team probably means more shots per game, thus more misses and thus more defensive boards. While this is generally true in real life, this would mean more players with 2-3 rpg, in 2K it means afew players with 1 rpg and one player with 15 rpg.

So, unless someone finds a way to fix this, Bosh is the best rebounder in the world.

Rashidi said...

I think the logic is that players who demand trades and are prone to being unhappy with their situations are "Expressive/Unpredictable" while the players who exhibit good behavior are "Neutral/Laid Back". 2K never really went too in-depth on explaining it's effects but I presume it's nothing major. When they came out with personalities, Kobe was in the middle of demanding a trade and vetoing deals to various teams, which I guess is where that came from. Toss in his legal issues, disagreements with Shaq, loner personality, I'd probably agree with them. Kobe has only recently started to become "expressive" by being a vocal team leader and what not.

Eddy Curry is unpredictable and he was so pissed off at his PT in my first association sim that he opted out of his contract walking away from l1 million dollars, which certainly qualifies as unpredictable... and a pipe dream for Knick fans.

Rashidi said...

I wouldn't edit ratings solely to affect Bosh's rebound totals, as that could all change if the Raptors picked up another boarder.

Raptors are getting outboarded by 3.4 per game in preseason. They're led by...

Johnson 6.7 (19 mpg)
Bosh 5.4 (22 mpg)
Evans 4.8 (16 mpg)
Bargnani 4.0 (23 mpg)
Nesterovic 3.5 (14 mpg)
O'Bryant 3.3 (12 mpg)
Turkoglu 3.0 (24 mpg)

They will be bad, but the role players are definitely good. Amir Johnson is a player to watch if he can keep up that rate as it's even better than Evans' (his 65 DRB is only 3 points better than Bargs).

Anonymous said...

Hey Rashidi,
Are you doing anything about injuries this year. If you remember, 91+ players in Ass. would play all 82 games. Do you feel we will still have this problem this year? And thank you for your hard work.